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You are going to have to explain that, I have NO idea what you are on about! 
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"Anyone else got stuck into major house projects?"-Eric
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OK, here is the closest I can get.
I had a mate, true story, in the Paras actually.
his family were doing some work in the house. It needed a skip. You know, big metal bin, gets filled with crap.
Anyway, they did the work, and noticed their cat had disappeared.
They truck came to remove the skip. And there it was,, 2 mm thick. A cat pancake.
Sad, but pithily funny.
Actually, I love cats, so really it is sad... 
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thats what the cat said.... (as the skip got lowered to to its head,,,,)
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Some years back we bought a house that was in desperate need of some TLC. We lavished ridiculous sums of money on it (at least it felt that way). Couldn't even live there till it was almost complete so wasted more money on renting. In the end we never grew to love the place even though it was pretty much exactly what we wanted so, no, I'd never do it again. Complete waste of time and money.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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When you say lavished money, were you getting other people to do the work for you? If so I can imagine that that is going to end up super expensive, and in monetary terms not worth it.
DOing the work yourself is interesting in that you can change your mind when you like.
You end up with something very nice, very personal, something I imagine you wouldnt get with an architect and a gang of builders. (Although it would be quicker).
But yeah, there is little chance I will do this again. It is so much hard work. Physically, mentally, stressfully, and really, to be happy and living simply with ones family is all that is important in life I think.
(Of course when it is done I can retire on the rental income!  )
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Erudite_Eric wrote: ... you can change your mind when you like.
Not once you've ordered the custom-cut granite countertops.
Erudite_Eric wrote: You end up with something very nice, very personal ...
That nobody else will want to buy when you put the house on the market.
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
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Converted garage into a full game/entertainment room.
Added walls, lights, and ceiling fan. Wired for cable and internet. Just about finished. 4 month project.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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Hell yes. In my fiancee's family's vacation town, there is a guy that kind of finished his garage, and turned it into a f***ing arcade. Open to the public during summer!
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Yeah, thats a nice sized chunk of work.
I have 2000 square feet to work on.... (And the f***ing garden....)
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Gardens aren't bad, concrete removal can get annoying though if you have to do that.
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I am more at the 'putting concrete in' stage. (Pool house, patios, lots of the,, walls..... oh f*** me, the amount of work....)
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Doing the ceiling work (drywall, taping, and sanding) sucks. That was the worst. Now that it is done, it looks great.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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yeah, I gave that a go. Made a mess of the finishing and got a guy in to redo it for me.
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I've done 5 houses were I lived in and remodeled for other people and for them it was worth it because it tremendously increased the value and also gave me a place to live for an extended period plus a good chunk of money.
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Did you consider it your major job?
To me part of the issue is focus. Am I a windows kernel programmer or a builder? Its hard to keep ones focus and thus ones skills with such a quandary.
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I walked away from programming in the mid 90s for personnel reasons and started my own construction company until resuming programming career in 2007. When I returned I couldn't catch up with all I had missed so I retired and do side jobs in both areas now but at my own pace. No more deadlines!
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Erudite_Eric wrote: But really, if you have a roof over your head,do you really care?
The seeds have wisdom have sprouted, grasshopper!
Or - put another way: If you keep working too hard to reach the good life, you'll never be able to enjoy it.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Yeah.
You know, when my daughter was born all my prior interests faded to nothing. All I wanted was a shack on some land and to bring her up.
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Nope not at the moment, The last one started in 1998 and finished in 2005. Now when I say finished, I mean enough to move in!
I converted 2 flats (3 floors) back into the original house.
Yes it was worth it. although it got a bit of a pain during the process, work kept getting in the way, social life got in the way, wife got in the way.
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hmm, 7 years eh? I guess this has taken 5 years so far....
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I had difficulty getting out of my apartment building this morning because some brilliant painters decided that ladders should be placed directly in front of doors (definitely not a fire hazard). Had to go out the other side of the building and walk around to get to my car. So I almost got stuck because of a house project...but that's the closest I've been.
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The summer I turned 12 my parents put in a 2 bedroom addition to their house. They had a contractor do the first part of the work to make it weatherproof and a few of the more fiddly bits afterwards: hanging doors (nothing in the old part of the house was perfectly square), finishing the drywall (dad hired an old friend who taught him how to do it at the same time), and de/reattaching the power meter from the outside wall to fit the siding/insulation under it. But my dad and I spent almost every evening and weekend that summer pulling wire, stuffing fiberglass batts into the walls, hanging drywall, and nailing shingles to make the new rooms livable. Then once that was done: as an encore, we tore off the old siding from the house and blew insulation into the old walls before hanging foamboard and vinyl siding around the entire house. My 5yo brother helped as a gofer, and mom did all the painting.
Dunno if I'd want to do anything that ambitious myself; but my parents didn't have much choice since the house wasn't big enough for 6 kids and they couldn't afford to pay someone to do all the work. Murphy could always leave me in the same spot.
More recently, I missed out on helping my mom tear down a drop ceiling in the kitchen when her work schedule gave her enough consecutive days off to do the job and clean up at the same time I was on vacation. Even money is on my spending at least one day later this summer helping her with some other part of the kitchen project. I suspect the only way I'll get out entirely is if she decides to hire my Uncle, who's semi-retired but does occasional small remodeling jobs to keep himself busy, to do all the reconstruction work instead of just the dishwasher and kitchen sink are cabinetry.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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