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Mark Nischalke wrote: As a veteran I'm damn glad the medics didn't have to practice on me.
Amen brother!
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Mark Nischalke wrote: Would you rather they train on humans?
like how Nurses and Doctors are trained? ...... yes
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I'm with you on this. They would have to demonstrate this has any value. Glib references to the horrors of war are not sufficient.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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Right, forget the references, how about actual experience. Had any?
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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That is just a bullying comment. I prefer to keep this impersonal and focussed on the subject at hand.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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I take it as a no then.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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I think this discussion should have taken place in the Soapbox... perhaps someone can move it...
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Killa is on a roll with these type of posts today.
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A troll on a roll!
Give him a break though, goats are close cousins to sheep and he's a Kiwi
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_Josh_ wrote: goats are close cousins to sheep and he's a Kiwi
 hahaha
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In case they face the chupacabra?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I know programmers lead a very sedentary life and are not all that active. However, I know some of you are avid fitness buffs. I've decided to become less sedentary and more active and I've got a question about headphones. I'm looking for a good pair of headphones that will stay put when I'm running, are resistant to sweat, and sound decent. What do the savvy recommend? I've considered the Bose IE2, the Sennheiser 680 line, and various others. I'm looking more for wired headphones than wireless, if that makes a difference.
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
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For exercising, go for the cheap ones. I've been using sony's bud earphones for years (I usually use 1, 2 pairs every year).
Big headphones get heavy and not very comfortable with the heat and the sweat.
Watched code never compiles.
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I have a pair of JVC marshmallow earbuds. The memory foam ear pieces don't fit my ears well and pop out as soon as I start jogging and sweating.
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
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I'm sorry but I have to laugh, only a proper geek decides to exercise more but starts with checking reviews of fitness related electronics on the net first 
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I started exercising in January and have lost almost 20 pounds since. I have been using some JVC earbuds up until now. The memory foam ear pieces don't fit my ears well and as I'm running farther and longer it's getting very aggravating having to replace my earbuds every few minutes. I'm looking for something better.
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
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FyreWyrm wrote: exercising in January and have lost almost 20 pounds since.
Congrats!
If it moves, compile it
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Sometimes the desire to get a new, pointless toy is so strong that you even consider exercise as rationalisation.
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i find that the standard iPod earphones work perfectly well when running. never had one get even close to falling out. they just rest at the bottom of your ear - they're not an insert. plus, since they aren't sound-isolating, i can still hear cars and whatnot. i tried some over-the-ear clippy things, and some foamy insert things, but the iPods not only sounded the best, but feel better, too.
i do put the cord under my shirt, to keep it out of the way.
at work, i have some nice Shures.
modified 18-Apr-12 20:12pm.
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I definitely don't want noise cancelling or sound isolating headphones. I run on a road that's pretty low traffic, but I still want to be able to hear what's going on around me. I run with my dog for protection, but he's just a pup and doesn't alert me to danger yet.
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
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I use the ones that came with the iPod as well and never have any issues with them coming out. I wouldn't use expensive ones to work out since there's the possibility of them breaking with the moisture from the sweat. I've actually had one set break because of the sweat, now I'm more careful with getting sweat on the earphones.
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I run between 5:00 AM and 5:30 AM. I see on average 1 moving car and 10 moving deer a day when I'm running. I run with my large Australian Cattle Dog for protection from the boogeyman and the deer. I do worry more about personal safety than most people. I jog on the sidewalk which is about 3 feet from the road. It's a residential area so there are lots of parked cars along the street so I'm not worried a car will jump up onto the sidewalk and get me. I also wear a headlamp when jogging so I can see where I'm going and I look around quite frequently to make sure something's not stalking me. Really the biggest thing I have to worry about is rabid skunks.
I'm not looking for noise-cancelling or sound isolating headphones. I just want a good pair of headphones that won't pop out of my ears, slide off my head, or break when sweated upon. Besides, if I don't wear headphones how will I hear the nice lady in my phone telling me how far I've gone and encouraging me to keep up the pace?
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
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ahh after all that - my decision is, no you're not allowed them. Because i said so.
Rule of the interwebs dont you know 
Bryce
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