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ummmmm and if you don't have IE?
*crickets*
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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l a u r e n wrote: ummmmm and if you don't have IE?
You'd be in the same category of people without a laptop/desktop then. 
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If you only consider Desktop OS usage[^], IE will exist on the majority of the desktop computers that are in use, and thats why I ask what's wrong with opening IE every now and then.
Mobile browsing definitely does complicate things a bit as it becomes more popular. However, that is an even messier issue because the small percentage of browsing compared to desktop Usage share of web browsers[^]. However mobile usage appears to hover around 8% total.
l a u r e n wrote: ummmmm and if you don't have IE?
Considering the odds, if you don't have IE, you are one of the very unique people on the web.
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Paul Watt wrote: So what's wrong with opening Internet Explorer for one site?
This?[^]
I'm a bit distracted that Adroid has 3.14%, especially on a pie chart.
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Quote: I'm a bit distracted that Adroid has 3.14%, especially on a pie chart.
I see what you mean, I would like to see the 3.14% replaced with π%
Consider if you can only hit one browser, IE is still the browser to develop for based on the usage chart. Unfortunately, there are approximately 3 browsers that have a relatively close market share. If you factor in browser versions, well, I am glad I am not a web developer.
If you only consider Desktop OS usage[^], IE is definitely the browser to develop for, it will exist on the majority of the desktop computers that are in use, and thats why I ask what's wrong with opening IE every now and then.
Mobile browsing definitely does complicate things a bit as it becomes more popular. However, that is an even messier issue because the small percentage of browsing compared to desktop Usage share of web browsers[^]. However mobile usage appears to hover around 8% total.
I said this before, I'm not a web developer, so I don't know if anything is coming along to unify the web, such as HTML5???
I do believe the widespread usage of desktop computers is what it is today because one platform type, Win32, has dominated the market for 20 years allowing an enormous library of software to be written that is compatible on an overwhelming majority of the computers that people are likely to use.
I think UNIX is an amazing operating system in its structure and what it can do, if you know what you are doing. Linux is great, unfortunately, all of the different distros cause the possibility for incompatible software even when its supposed to run on Linux.
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It a PITA to do that. I have a credit card that I have to pay using IE. Everything works in Chrome, until I get to the "approval" section where I talk to my bank and enter my password to prove the payment is from me. In Chrome, with this one credit card company, the approval box never appears, so I can't make the payment. Needless to say, this is at the end of the process. The same process, with the same bank but a different CC company works fine in Chrome, as does every other payment from the bank. The CC company support
response? "It works fine for me" - Of course it does you robot! You're using IE...
Any guesses when I normally remember I'm using the "wrong" browser? 
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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OriginalGriff wrote: ...Needless to say, this is at the end of the process...Any guesses when I normally remember I'm using the "wrong" browser?
I feel your pain. Only my experience was with IE. Luckily it wasn't my bank, and it wasn't something that I couldn't buy on a different website, so that's what I did.
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hehehe IE6 & IE7 are dead to me - i ignore them completely and never have any problems
the trouble is that banks see software development as a cost center, and so try to minimize it in any and all ways
just be thankful they had a live person you could talk to
BofA has a bug in their site that refuses to show your account number due a javascript error - i've told them about it several times but nothing has happened
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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I'm surprised that you haven't yet found a way into their system and fixed the bug yourself. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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I hate to bring a bit'o'experience to the party here, but I have worked in a couple of smallish banks in the UK, I doubt US banks are very different.
From what I have seen, the vast majority of the crazy stuff you see (and there is a lot of it) can be placed at the door of the Information Security department, not development. You'd exepect InfoSec to be a hardcore of security-savvy devs with a hardcore of business-savvy security people. What it actually is, is few Information Security specialists: MBAs with some extra training, or being MBAs just some training. They are then placed in a committee whose main aim seems to be to make groupthink into the next big extreme sport. Then this committee is made pretty much omnipotent. I once pointed out an insane bit of security guff in a requirements document, my boss's reply was "I know, Info-Sec put that in so there is nothing we can do about it". To make sure that the cancer really spreads, the banks all collaborate in security matters to create codes of "best practise insane nonsense" so in the UK at least, things are uniformly bad.
I swear one of the InfoSec people I knew was straight out of Dilbert. He was researching hacking at one point (honestly - he started to look at people - especially devs - with suspicion) and caused much hilarity in IT because he bought "Hackers- Heroes of the Computer Revolution[^]" because, presumably he couldn't tell the difference between this[^] and this[^].
My guess is that the InfoSec for your bank decided browsers other than were insecure ("its open source so it can't be secure" or some such BS), so they blocked them.
modified 15-Apr-12 5:48am.
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ehrr..., google ... what's that? 
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Damn! Is it Easter already? I was going to get my lady a chocolate bunny, but I must be getting old; they're too fast, and hard to hit with my pellet gun these days. And me with pounds of melting chocolate for dipping, just wasting in the fridge... I'm going to visit her in the morning, so maybe I'll just grab a few Egg McMuffins and dye them on the way to her house. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Yes, we only had one last week. The Orthodox church still uses the Julian calendar, so the calculation is different to the western catholic/protestant churches.
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Roger Wright wrote: I'm going to visit her in the morning, so maybe I'll just grab a few Egg
McMuffins and dye them on the way to her house.
No need. Most of the major groceries should have all last week's Easter stuff on clearance sale. Got a ready-made basket and a bunch of candy for like $6 yesterday.
Love this Orthodox stuff. Christmas can be done in January, too. 
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Tonight the local hospitals will be full of people with serious gastric problems, who, having fasted for Lent, will totally stuff themselves stupid with σούβλα - randomly chopped chunks of fatty mutton cooked on a spit over a barbecue.
What is worse - there is NO BACON! 
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Kai ho phos, phanei en te skotia !
“Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness, and dies by chance.” Jean-Paul Sartre, "Nausea"
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Twice the crucifiction, twice the chocolate!!!
Watched code never compiles.
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So my son and his new girl friend brought her computer over for me to fix and it's got Vista on it and has more problems then Carter's got pills. Got a lot of them straightened out but I've got a copy of XP and guess whats going on her machine?
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Mike Hankey wrote: guess whats going on her machine?
2[^]
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Common now can't do that to the poor gal...3.1.
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Sounds like a plan
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Mike Hankey wrote: Got a lot of them straightened out
Since there are only two of them, I assume you've told both to buy a new computer next time they can't figure out how to fix it themselves.
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 It's to late to fix the kids and his son my grandson is well on the way to being broke also. 
He also brought me his computer; Pentium 4 with 512MB of memory running XP and he said if I couldn't fix it to pitch it...can you guess the verdict?
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Mike Hankey wrote: can you guess the verdict?
Defenestrated?
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