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Yes you are right but also wrong. 
The thing is that the new OSXyz wants to be mobile as in iOS. [add]Also in w8 you can always switch to the desktop/aero mode.[/add]
Still, you are right(not left) about the last statement.
All the best,
Dan
modified 21-Feb-12 5:48am.
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Ah, but you do work on just a single app at a time. WP7 mango lets you see all the running apps. I am sure an "Alt-Tab" like shortcut will emerge for win8. Metro forces the App developers to allow the OS to close/hibernate Apps not in use to keep the system running smooth. You should be able to re open an app you were on previously and the app starts up where you left off. So why have them open all the time?
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MiddleTommy wrote: Ah, but you do work on just a single app at a time
I don't know about _Maxxx_, but while I only interact with a single app at a time, I often have multiple apps doing things on my behalf simultaneously. It helps me to be able to dedicate enough screen real estate so I can monitor their progress, especially when they require me to do a lot of poke-and-wait-poke-and-wait kind of interaction.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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I am just like that too. But I am beginning to look at that way I interact with my computer as having too many SQL Joins (slow). I think Metro is more of a NOSQL brain approach to desktop computing. All that monitoring is taking our attention away from the current task.
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OK take this real situation:
I am learning MVVM on MVC using KnockoutJs
I have VS2010 open and I am writing C# code to create my model from a database
I have SQL Management Studio open on a 2nd monitor - both so I can write SQL and also so I can refer to my tables & SPs as i write C#
I have my web browser window open on a tutorial page showing me some C# code which I am adapting
I have another browser window open with another example which I am comparing.
Additionally, with VS, I have some of the panes undocked for convenience, and to increase the code pane real estate.
Sure, I could alt-tab between each app- but that would be like going back in time - constantly flicking to the browser, remembering stuff from there, back to VS, start typing - Oh! was that a double curly bracket? back to the browser - Oh! damn, thats SQL, browser, VS type in - what was that column name again, back to SQL
you get the picture?
MiddleTommy wrote: Metro forces the App developers to allow the OS to close/hibernate Apps not in use to keep the system running smooth.
Great for tablets, crap for pCS
MiddleTommy wrote: You should be able to re open an app you were on previously and the app starts up where you left off. So why have them open all the time?
On a low power processor on a small screen tablet, this is a necessary evil - it is not a 'great idea' but something that is necessary on battery-powered devices to conserve as much power and memory as possible. They need to be open because I am referring to them, and using them, many times per minute.
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I do hope there will be multi app for multi monitor support. And a split screen option would be nice too. Like I said before I work with many apps tabs and monitors too. I am approaching this new Windows era with a positive look instead of kicking and screaming.
You know windows8 sp1 is where it will come together anyway.
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I like metro a lot, I've been using a WP7 handset for well over a year and it still feels great. Looks like it'll scale up to tablets well but I feel it has no place as the primary method of input on a laptop or workstation, but I recall them saying it's optional and can be toggled off, so that's not a problem at all.
My primary home machine is a macbook running lion, and while it works just fine, I still prefer Windows 7.
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.
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My first impression was wow! I've turned my desktop computer into a giant cell phone that I can't make calls on. 
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Isn't that a neat feature? 
All the best,
Dan
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MDL=>Moshu wrote: Isn't that a neat feature?
It would certainly reduce the number of incoming calls I get during meetings. (The ones that happen when the head honcho is in the meeting  )
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Hmm, hope it doesn't increase the outGoingCalls(); 
All the best,
Dan
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No matter if it's really a refreshing UI or not, The anti-MS zealots is always going to say NO to your question & vote it down.
I've been using it for some weeks & I feel truly nice.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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I really don't give a **** about rep points.
All the best,
Dan
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It isn't just you, I simply adore it.
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It is not just you. Especially looking at those two screen shots, the new MacOS looks incredibly boring.
I also can't believe that, after suing Samsung because their tablet looks like a drawing Apple made years before, they go and almost exactly copy the MSE logo for their Gatekeeper!
And, no, I'm not just trying to bash Apple. I used a Mac for many years. Even today, all my computers are dual-boot Windows/Linux. So, I'm not fully invested in any one platform. But, I do like the Windows 8 interface. It looks like a first step toward LCARS.
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke!
My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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I've been using the phone for about a year now, and I think the UI works great there. I also was lucky enough to get one of the tablets they handed out at Build. I've used that as both a tablet and a more traditional desktop. I think the Metro UI works in both scenarios, but the traditional desktop sucked as a tablet. It was also kind of hard to judge because there are no compelling apps for the Metro side yet. Maybe when the app store goes beta? I would imagine a few good Metro apps and I'd like the interface even more.
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It's been my understanding that the traditional interface (ie. regular Start button access and same ol' desktop) is not only still available in Win8, but the default for normal desktops. The metro UI is targeted specifically for mobile/touch devices (ie. primarily phones and tablets). Based on that premise some of the comments, such as those regarding the ergonomics, will not apply. On the other hand, if what I've read is wrong and they go with metro as standard everywhere, I think that'd be horrible for all of the same reasons mentioned by others.
In terms of "over-simplified" simplicity of the interface, I agree that I had the same initial gut response - OS for kiddies. However, if you've used it I think you'll see the benefits. The tile concept provides clearly defined borders that icons do not; this becomes more important when you consider a broader touch vs mouse click and the concept of live tiles. The reality is that some apps are used more frequently than others - giving those larger tiles for emphasis and additional information (via live tiles) makes sense.
That being said, I think there's still a way to go - this interface has to improve (just as Win7's Start Menu and Taskbar are significantly improved over the original Win95). The tiles need to be more customizable - the user should be allowed to select the tile size rather than it being defined by someone at MS (maybe you can do that now on Win8, but can't on WP7). I also believe some grouping or tagging system would help better define and improve the navigation of both the start menu and subsequent app listings.
That's my 2c.
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Coudn't agree more. There sure is tons of space for improvment.
But it's a start. And a good one IMO.
Regarding desktop I also know that the default will be the standard desktop.
For a workstaion, I don't see much point in using the Metro. Metro si for mobile and quick grasps at things that matters.
For a bussiness I see a lot of potential in the Metro tablets for managers and the likes.
Also lot of new work and "streams of income" as POH said.
All the best,
Dan
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Since metro style is the style mobile applications use and has been widely accepted by consumers, Windows 8 just goes with the trends. Therefore, it is not a question of liking it or not but doing development with it.
TOMZ_KV
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Exactly. But if we(developers) don't like, we don't write apps for it.
So being a dev site and even more a MS centric site, liking it means developing for it.
All the best,
Dan
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I don't get all the comments about the Metro UI being for primates or illiterate people.
It's a great interface for touch devices and for the purpose it was designed, much better than the cluttered UIs of iPhone and Android.
And on windows 8, you still get the classic desktop, so what's all the fuss about????
So, no, it's not just you.. 
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The possible causes for the fuzz IMO, are:
1) They really don't like it.
2) They wanna look cool/superior and what better way then bashing an MS product.
All the best,
Dan
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Well
1) If they don't like it, it's enough to simply say "I don't like it" and perhaps give intelligent explanations why they think it's not good.
2) By just bashing a MS product you don't end up looking superior, you end up looking like a not so smart fan boy. but shhh.. they don't know that..
Anyways, I guess the market will tell if the MS move is correct. Personally I like Metro, but whether it's great I will know for sure only when I will use it every day.
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