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I heard you are contagious for several weeks after showing flu symptoms anyway.
Where I work, they got tired of employees calling in "sick" when the weather was really really nice on a Friday, so they just call them "Personal Days" now and you can take them when you want.
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Roy from Detroit wrote: Where I work, they got tired of employees calling in "sick" when the weather was
really really nice on a Friday, so they just call them "Personal Days" now and
you can take them when you want.
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First let me say, I hope you feel better.
You could always do what the Japanese do and wear a mask all the time. Personally I say try this[^]
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Sounds very sensible; if we had that in the UK the government's finances would be in a better state.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Oh gov jobs get pay from day 1. Private sector is screwed
Alberto Bar-Noy
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“The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!”
(C3PO)
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Here the law is that you get full pay when you're sick from the first day onwards. The insurance covers (must cover by law) whatever the company doesn't. After a couple of weeks you get reduced pay, and it will reduce again, until it eventually drops to a 'bare minimum' level covered by social insurances alone.
You must have a doctor's approval from the third day on. But a company may ask for one from the first day if you had been ill repeatedly without approval (i. e. for less than 3 days each time). This is a matter of trust.
These laws do take the possibility of infecting others into consideration, and doctors are advised to approve illness if it reduces that risk. They even ask whether you are constantly in touch with other people at work, and may approve (or not) based on that information. They may and will send you home even if you are well enough to do your work, if there is a sizable risk for you to infect others.
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Now that makes perfect sense. I got I so bad that I am at home coughing my lungs out. Thank.you my colleague for sharing your germs 
Alberto Bar-Noy
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“The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!”
(C3PO)
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Hi there
It's difficult to get info out of anyone about this as everyone's super sensitive to spam, but:
a contact of mine wants to send lots (hundreds) of emails from outlook in one go.
He knows about mailchimp, littlegreenplane, etc., but only wants to go down that route as a last resort.
His current provider (British Telecom) marks anything over 50 as spam, I know one which marks 250 as spam, but he wants to send 500 in one go.
Does anyone know a provider who allows this?
Thanks
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Probably an obvious question here : but why can't he just send multiple emails? So if the limit is 50 and he wants to send 500, just send them out as 10 separate mails each with 50 emails in the bcc and the self-email in the to: header.
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I had to work with some software at a previous company that would send out "email blasts". You'd give the software the email and the recipients, and it would control the sending in small chunks of recipients. It would also add a time delay between sends to avoid being flagged.
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Et Voila[^]
Just create the groups then send to the groups
So send Group1, Group2 etc.
A small macro in outlook could do that and he/she/it/they would have no spamming problem.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Yahoo Groups[^] has a 'Mailing List' facility.
Other than that or Nish's suggestion I would suggest that an ESP (Email Service Provider) would be the way to go.
Henry Minute
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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Thanks for the various suggestions - will put them to him!
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Right click is now a disabled dream! 
Now that is a killer enterprise app.
Bored out of my mind. Don't get me wrong I have a lot to do just that I don't feel like it.
All the best,
Dan
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Oh, I thought you'd been to the pub.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Coding is a very nice profession and activity. You exercise your brain, but be careful, you can get addicted to some routines, at this time you should put all these routines in some elegant and structured classes and create your own libraries.
I believe in 3 kinds of coders:
1) Scientists
2) Engineers
3) Designers
and you can put them in generations:
1) Scientists - 1950's ~ 1970's
2) Engineers - 1980's ~ middle 2000's
3) Designers - middle 2000's ~ now
I'm talking about the culture around programming.
50 years ago the major class of programmers were scientists working on monstruous projects - military or incorporation. These scientists created the main languages after years researching the computacional paradigms.
This scenario prepared the environment to engineers start working on code: the most clear, functional and consolidated softwares intended to be done.
After the internet, the focus changed. We don't need all documentation, we need to be fast and cool. This is the culture now.
The first time I've heard about XP was in 1999, and none of my bosses until 2008 ever heard about it, the one that knew it, didn't like the idea. And now the 'developer's culture' says to be agile, to use SCRUM and TDD, or you are obsolete. But I remember: '10 years ago they said the same about CMMI', and now the startups don't give a penny to cmmi. So there's a culture, to be the coolest geek, or to have the most brilliant startup.
All the things keeps happening, some engineers kept a little bit scientists, some scientists kept researching mathematics. The functional programming is preparing the first real strike in commercial systems, the architectures are developing over patterns, approaches over methodologies. And there are semantic web and tons of bytes to process.
Our mentors used to be scientists, our bosses engineers, and we are becoming designers to move fast and to spread computational power over computers and people.
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When I saw the words "Coding Culture" I thought you were referring to the growth of the microbiota that feed on the detritus found in your keyboard, (Skin, crumbs, saliva, dead flies etc).
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Coding has always been part of the Fashion Industry.
Henry Minute
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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Strange, because Fashion has never been part of the coding industry!
(Unless dressing in black, wearing heavy metal t-shirts or carrying different coloured highlighters is fashionable).
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Dalek Dave wrote: Strange, because Fashion has never been part of the coding industry!
So you really believe that those perfect women exist? Until I see one in person I won't believe. They are all coded to be perfect.
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson
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An interesting point.
I think what has happened is more an opening up of the industry to increasingly less technical people. The "Scientists" are still around and coming along in the universities, as are the Engineers. It is more like a pyramid where there are increasingly few people from categories 3 --> 2 --> 1. (I Assume category 0 are mathematicians  ). I would say it is personal skill & enthusiasm and experience that defines which of these categories a dev falls into. If I had to, I'd label roughly:
1. Hacker [^]- in the proper sense (c.f. Cracker)
2. Developer or Programmer
3. Code Monkey.
But even that is a continuum. Developers are the backbone of our industry, code monkeys are the people in Q&A asking "Do you haz teh codez" and hackers are explained in the jargon file.
As for the Agile/formal methods thing, it's all a bit of a red-herring as an indicator. Formal methods have their place. I prefer Agile, but wouldn't countenance it under certain contexts, and there are some contexts where formal methods are probably inefficient. Your boss who "didn't like the idea" either had good reasons to reject it (in which case fair play) or was just resistant to change as it takes effort or is outside his/her comfort zone (in which case not). Nothing to do with being a scientist/engineer/designer.
norritt.icarus wrote: The functional programming is preparing the first real strike in commercial systems
I remember my lecturer at uni saying much the same thing in 2000, and that he'd heard people saying the same thing through his career. Who knows, it might achieve mainstream acceptance (For certain things it is excellent and nice to play with).
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Keith Barrow wrote: norritt.icarus wrote: The functional programming is preparing the first real strike in commercial systems
I remember my lecturer at uni saying much the same thing in 2000, and that he'd heard people saying the same thing through his career. Who knows, it might achieve mainstream acceptance (For certain things it is excellent and nice to play with).
When FORTRAN was invented I believe the creator expressed the view that there would no longer need to be new languages - that was back in the 1950's...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: When FORTRAN was invented I believe the creator expressed the view that there would no longer need to be new languages
Actually, the creator was right in the sense that anything done now could be done in FORTRAN.
Wait, why'd he go and do that? We had assembler language before that.
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What has really developed in the 20 years I have been coding are the tools.
As an example I have just started doing some development in Android - I can do this because the internet can provide me with tutorials and the IDE Ecipse allows me to compile, run and debug code without me knowing anything about the intricacies of these processes.
As well as having programmed in Java for the first time five minutes previous to the run(I am reasonably experienced in C# which is what helped) - twenty years ago these tools to help you get from code to application in one step(i.e. clicking on the run button) just did not exist...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Keith Barrow wrote: I think what has happened is more an opening up of the industry to increasingly less technical people.
As the number of developers increases, the average I.Q. approaches 100. This is an inevitable consequence of I.Q. being normally distributed. You can see a version of the same thing in the original post; scientists->engineers->code monkeys in a horrible kind of reverse evolution.
Somebody has to build the big operating systems, compilers, and servers that this years' code monkeys swing from as they build their webby startups. The scientists and the engineers are still here, in about the same numbers as in 1990. They are a small but important tail wagging what has become a very big dog.
Hiring managers, who appear to have a bit less than 10 years experience on average, still want to find the engineers. But they have to sift through an awful lot of code monkeys to find them. 10 years from now, the entire industry may stratify into one industry of code monkeys, and a separately named and managed industry of engineers and scientists. We'll see.
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