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heheh I like how while Tim is peeing on Jet's bike he's also making his own puddle of piss to stand in...
So the moral that we're to take from this is if Tim, Wim and Els had just peed on grandma then grandma wouldn't be crying right now...?! ...er... um.... but....  
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute
"...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave
"Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon
It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011
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Wim is one dude!
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Thanks for the post, Tim.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. "
— Hunter S. Thompson
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I am writing a program of my own and I’m going to need to do documentation soon. To make that faster I enabled windows speech recognition because when it doesn’t make mistakes speech recognition is much faster than typing. However, at this point the accuracy rate is appalling. In fact it seems lower than a program I owned 10 years ago put out by IBM called Via Voice. However, Via Voice had you do about ½ hour of voice training for it and Microsoft doesn’t. Since all the voice recognition programs learn your voice over time and since little training was done with the Microsoft I suspect it will get better with time.
So has anybody used it before and does it get much better? Has anybody used dragon before and the windows version and tell me which one is better? And just out of curiosity how well does Siri work?
And just for kicks and giggles I will to write this same thing over again without making error corrections.
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Just thought it would be funny to post the kinds of mistake Windows voice recognition makes if you don't correct the errors. Same message as above.
I am writing a program of my own and I’m going to need to do documentation to. To make that faster I enabled windows speech recognition because when it doesn’t make mistakes beat recognition is much faster than typing. However, at this point the accuracy of rate to Spalding. In fact it seems slower than a program I own 10 years ago put out by IBM called be a voice. However, be a voice had you do about ½ hour of voices reading for it and Microsoft does that. Since all voice recognition programs learn your voice over time and since little training was done with Microsoft I suspect it will get better time.
So has anybody used it before and it doesn’t get better question and just out of curiosity how well does see rework question
And just for kicks and giggles I will break the same thing over again without making air corrections.
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mikemarquard wrote: So has anybody used it before and it doesn’t get better question and just out of curiosity how well does see rework question
It didn't actually do too too terribly bad for the most part...
It sure didn't know what to do with "Via Voice" but apparently it had no problems with "Microsoft"!
Good post. Keep us appraised of its progress as it gets more familiar with your voice...
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute
"...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave
"Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon
It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011
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It's actually improving I think because the first letter I tried to write with it it would frequently get every single word of an entire sentence wrong. Actually I didn't expect it to get Via Voice right even though I tried to add it to the dictionary but if you look closely it made a lot of mistakes. Funniest one I think was appalling became Spalding  .
If this thing doesn't improve I will probably try dragon but I'll let you know how it goes.
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I used Dragon Naturally Speaking more then 10 years ago and I must admit that I was highly impressed by its accuracy. It was exceptional and way ahead if its time, much better than today's voice recognition programs. The only thing where it lagged behind was when it came to recognizing numbers. I would rate it 95/100 for word recognition and 60/100 for number recognition.
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Thanks for the info. If the windows stuff doesn't improve rapidly I'll probably buy that. Thanks.
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I use Dragon myself, and it works wonders. I tested Windows Speech system and Dragon's, and found a lot of errors with Windows' system, even after several hours! The error rate seemed to go UP with Windows!
Dragon, though, went straight down in error rates.
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I'm writing the next installment in my article series on relationship oriented programming (no link included because this is NOT a plug for my article) and I REALLY want to be able to use the DevExpress grid control because it works so much nicer with a DataSet - the .NET grid control sucks, for example, not being able to drill down into child records - everything I've seen googling for this has examples of using two or more separate data grids, WTF?
So, any objections?
What say you, Chris? CPians?
Marc
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There is a trial version so if you can make your article work with that, I reckon it should be allowed. But what would I know, I'm banned from coding.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: There is a trial version so if you can make your article work with that
That's my thinking. Still, people might resent installing DevExpress. And then there's the issue of distributing the DLL's so at least the EXE can run. I should ask DevExpress.
Marc
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I don't know if they still do (and am too lazy to check on your behalf  ) but they used to do a free controls suite. If they still do and your code will work with that then I would suggest that this would be the answer.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Last time I checked the GridControl wasn't included in the free control suite 
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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Your article is more on content as opposed to how the content is displayed therefore I'd say
it would be your choice.
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Don't agree with that Mike.
You or I might be able to adjust but a noob cut'n'paster probably wouldn't be able to.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Henry Minute wrote: Don't agree with that Mike.
You or I might be able to adjust but a noob cut'n'paster probably wouldn't be able to.
It's the concept you're teaching not the UI. This was a trick question anyway cause there is
no right answer. Some will gleen from the content and some want a package they can just, as you
cut'n'paste. Guess I'm one of them that former.
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I reckon this section[^] will do you nicely.
So: yes. Please.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Or make the DataGridView so that it can display child rows/tables. That would be a nice article on itself (and I always wondered how DevExpress does it) 
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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I actually accomplished this once. It was not quite as fancy as theirs but it got the job done. My issue was that I couldn't make it work right past one level relationship ie...
parent -> child was fine
parent -> child -> child didnt do as well.
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!
Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.
You can't scare me, I have children.
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As a random reader I wouldn't install any additional libraries, in order to compile and execute sample code, but if article is good enough, I don't mind that.
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It is just going to limit your audience to the subset who are willing to install the 3rd party tools. Personally, unless there was a really compelling reason, I would not download your article. Even getting the freebie controls usually puts you into some marketing gits database and I have enough crap installed on my machine as is!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I often receive email to my Gmail account from my own email id. Gmail shows the sender as "me" and the sender's email id is my exact email address. They usually pertain to cheap drugs or cheap Rolex watches, etc. I usually do not care about it but recently I have started worrying about if it possible for someone to use my email id to send an email to someone else? (without my password, of course. I know anyone can do it if they have my password)
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