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It's not the calories that we burn while programming that matters, it's the bags of snacks scattered around that gets us. 
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Using hand punched cards, or better yet, cards made from chiseled granite, could greatly increase your caloric use. At a "slight" cost of productivity.
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It appears that art appeals differently to different people, but a goat sh*t sculpture[^]? (top right panel, SFW, etc.)
Note that Natalia, TX is somewhat south of San Antonio, but I understand the sculpture was actually on exhibit in San Antonio. Perhaps JSOP saw it and can report on how full of sh*t it really was?
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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To me, most art is sh*t, so I probably wouldn't have even noticed it if I had seen it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Yeah, I agree, but that was carrying it far too literally.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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That's me - always pushing the boundaries.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Art is whatever you can get away with.
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Sometimes we're interested in a community that is in a way different from what we're familiar with and it takes time to adapt depending on our adaptation strategies. I recently got a lot of 1votes when I started posting on The Lounge and it really caught me, some CP folks even thought I'm disguising under a name different from my real name (why on earth will I do that?). Okay, I just want to put it out that I'm plain and I just want to connect with other developers to make myself & others become better developers. Although I joined this community 2years ago, my activities really started last month and I'm still learning to flow with this community. I think (IMO) that Instead of downvoting, a simple correction will go a long way & with that one will learn from past mistakes. Downvoting may not pass much corrective message as one mat not even know what he/she did wrong. I'm sure some of us have been in this position at one time or the other, the simple truth is that we're not made perfect in a single day. Well, all I've said is a personal opinion and it's open to any kind of vote.
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OK - makes sense to me. You got a 1.
Just kidding - I'll give you a 5.
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Thanks for sharing in my opinion...You've got a 0.5 for that...KIDDING...+5
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Welcome, glad to have you.
C'est What?
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Downvoting is usually plain silly.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong.
-- Iain Clarke
[My articles]
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Sunny Oludayo Alli wrote: I recently got a lot of 1votes when I started posting on The Lounge and it really caught me
FWIW, it's rarely personal; people vote for different reasons, ranging from the mark-up of your post and the tone to the actual message.
Sunny Oludayo Alli wrote: I think (IMO) that Instead of downvoting, a simple correction will go a long way & with that one will learn from past mistakes.
True, but not everyone wants to take the time to write a complete argumentation, and sometimes it's even preferable not to. There's moments when I see someone crossposting something that can be googled easily; in that case I prefer a 1-vote to give an indication, and to keep my big mouth shut.
Sunny Oludayo Alli wrote: as one mat not even know what he/she did wrong.
Very true, but if you can't say anything constructive, it's sometimes better to say nothing at all. Harsh critique can have heavier effects than a simple vote - although a large number of 1-votes might be equally disheartening. A cap might be worth considering.
Sunny Oludayo Alli wrote: I'm sure some of us have been in this position at one time or the other, the simple truth is that we're not made perfect in a single day.
The simple truth is that we can't achieve perfection by definition. It's also not required, the woods would be indeed a very dull place if only the best singing-birds were allowed to sing
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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as far as i am concerned the voting system is here for one reason, to highlight community submissions that are accurate, helpful or insightful. It is not a personal ranking system and does not provide a measure of individual popularity.
if a submission is misleading or could send an enquirer on a wild goose chase downvoting it helps to ensure it is disregarded. This is the most important thing, that disinformation is flagged. Adding a comment to explain the fault is advisable and appreciated but, imo, secondary to the act of downvoting.
Don't take it personally
Pedis ex oris
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You post link to articles without any comment on the article. Many will consider that essentially as spam. At least many of your post with a lot of vote of 1 are links.
Thus you simply have to understand that we are not interested to have an initial post that is only a link to an article.
If you get a lot of 1 for an article, simply stop posting similar articles. Some people already told you that we are not interested in random links.
Simpy stop writing that kind of stuff in the lounge.
Philippe Mori
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Hi Sunny,
Welcome to CodeProject !
I think you've gotten some great advice and information already on this thread, but I'll add a few thoughts, I hope in a brotherly spirit.
In my humble opinion, CodeProject is not "one cohesive entity:" it's many.
To me the "great citadel" of CP, what makes it the "shining city on the hill," in the entire 'universe' of .NET is the vast, and ever replenishing, stream of high-quality technical articles, tips, tricks, blog entries. In my humble opinion CP is the greatest technical educational institution on-line, with StackOverFlow (a very different reality), also just as great, in its own way.
The Lounge has its own "dynamic:" I think of it as being, at times, like the ancient Roman mob: at one point it's filled with a 'carnal' desire for what the Romans called "bread and circuses," bloody entertainment, frissons of vague sexuality, macho-posturing of gladitorial persona, sport, even sadistic violent-sport at the expense of others. Jokes that are the equivalent (in Thailand, where I live) to the tick-infested battered, limping, lame, vacant-eyed abandoned dogs that haunt the streets
And then, as if in 'magical counter-balance' to such pond-scum, a wealth of external links are often posted here on the Lounge, such as the recent wonderful pointer to the short-film, 'The Butterfly Circus.' Marvelous stories are sometimes told here by such fine writers as Roger Wright that allow us to vicariously experience a world of work (in Roger's case high-energy electrical distribution) in a most compelling and educational way.
Dalek Dave, the arch-poster, often writes posts that speak from a profound knowledge of evolutionary biology.
Individuals always transcend structure !
And then, in another moment, the Lounge is a serious place where people are talking about not only serious technical matters, but also serious personal issues, and compassion and empathy are salient, as well as excellent advice.
And, then with another 'turn-of-the-screw,' the Lounge is a place to vent those frustrations with software and hardware that plague us all as the post-PC fantasy-era "slouches towards Bethlehem." And, yes, of course, flames galore.
In the technical forums, I experience CP as "another reality," where very different dynamics come into play: great places, I think, to ask questions, debate, hopefully in a friendly way, and learn from some amazingly competent people who so generously give so much time there.
While I agree with John Ruskin, who said, "the worst vice is advice:" I'll go ahead and offer a little:
1. when you post be clear about what your motivation is, and state it. tell us why you find what you are writing about interesting, and what it means to you.
2. if you post links to external content, news, technical articles, amusing stories, whatever, comment on why you are posting this now, and what it means to you.
3. if you can, when you write, imagine that there's a person you are writing to, someone real, someone perhaps busy.
4, in terms of technical questions: in so far as you can be precise; and try to articulate, if you don't understand something, or find something confusing: just where the "sticking point" is for you.
And now, after this little message, I am sure that, in my next message, I will violate every one of my own prescriptions: may the gods help me to laugh with those who laugh with me, or even ... at me ! For that laughter is ... grace !
best, Bill
"Is it a fact - or have I dreamt it - that, by means of electricity, the world of matter has become a great nerve, vibrating thousands of miles in a breathless point of time? Rather, the round globe is a vast head, a brain, instinct with intelligence!" - Nathanial Hawthorne, House of the Seven Gables
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Sunny Oludayo Alli wrote: I think (IMO) that Instead of downvoting, a simple correction will go a long way & with that one will learn from past mistakes.
Downvoting is the simplest correction, much better than the likely cutting comments. First off, you posted a pointless and ,crucially, inappropiate link here[^] when you were informed about this you changed the link to something else.
The next post you made was within a few minutes: Again an uncommented link, which looks (especially from a previously less active member) like advertising. If you'd provided your own opinion with the link I doubt you'd have been so thoroughly downvoted. Also the behaviour appeared trollish, the correct course with trolls is to vote to remove and move on.
Internet fora, like all forms of human communication, have their own culture: There are unwritten (and in our case some written) rules and boundaries. Everyone has two options, either to learn and remain within the boundaries of accepted behaviour, or to do their own thing which will lead to castigation by the community (and in many cases here, getting banned).
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Thank you all for your comments, now I know better!
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OK - what are you advertising?
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I'm advertising clean living my friend.
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager
If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
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yep - I hear ya' - gave your OP a 5, a nice sentiment
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I used to have clean living, but I drowned it in tequila. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
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Now you have clinically clean living
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager
If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
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Mehdi Gholam wrote: Now you have clinically clean living Well, Mehdi, this brings a strange thought to mind:
Would truly 'clean living' involve an absence of any ability to imagine, or experience, any 'categories' of 'clean living' ?
Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XVI, lines 79-83 :
"A maggior forza e a miglior natura
liberi soggiacete; e quella cria
la mente in voi, che 'l ciel no ha in sua cura.
Però, se 'l mondo presente disvia,
in voi è la cagione, in voi si cheggia.
To a greater force, and to a better nature,
you, free, are subject, and that creates
the mind in you, which the heavens have not in their charge.
Therefore if the present world go astray,
the cause is in you, in you it is to be sought."
Perhaps, for a magical moment, that is an all-too-brief eternity, this is a truth we can know without remembering our dirty laundry is waiting to be washed ?
best, Bill
"Is it a fact - or have I dreamt it - that, by means of electricity, the world of matter has become a great nerve, vibrating thousands of miles in a breathless point of time? Rather, the round globe is a vast head, a brain, instinct with intelligence!" - Nathanial Hawthorne, House of the Seven Gables
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