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GeneralRe: Small ISV's - do you really feel like Microsoft cares about you any more? Pin
ronDW21-Dec-10 3:34
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GeneralMicrosoft Really DOES value small ISVs Pin
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Yortw21-Dec-10 11:17
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I (we, the company I work for) feel the same way, but perhaps for different reasons.

Mostly, these days it seems Microsoft is trying to solve problems which aren't the problems we have. They produce wonderful frameworks/tools etc. that look good until we try to use them, and then we discover they are still great if you use them as intended, but because we are not an enterprise/large scale outfit, the way they were intended to be used just doesn't work for us. That's why, as a small ISV, we feel unloved.

Of course it would be nice if things were cheaper, but I haven't heard my boss complaining about the price of MSDN... our current issue that our MCP/MCTS/MCPD certifications have expired. By having a certain number of employees with these certs we achieved some level of partner status which made MSDN more afforable (I think we had to have 2 certed employees to MCPD level, plus two customer references + pay somewhere around $3-4k for the equivalent of MSDN Universal). Our certs expired sometime in the last year and we had no idea until we tried to renew - and all the new dev courses require knowledge of new technologies like Linq, WPF etc. which are know of or have used a little, but because we're stuck in .Net 2.0 we probably don't know well enough to pass the exams. Our customers have some servers that won't run .Net 3.0+ and actually managing the .Net upgrade across multiple companies and hundreds of PC's is a problem, not to mention that VS2010/.Net 4 dropped support for the compact framework which some of our stuff relies on. That, combined with the fact that we didn't really see anything compelling for our business until .Net 4, means that we are behind the 8 ball now in terms of skillset. It actually isn't hurting us that much in terms of the business, but it's now an issue because of the certs/msdn cost.

I haven't really got much experience with the cloud, but we did look at Azure briefly for a project we were doing. I don't *think* anyone elses pricing is better, at least not by a lot, but then again I don't really know. If I were going to the cloud I would still want to use Azure despite the pricing (if it was feasible), from the little I know I think their tools and architecture design for Azure is better than many of the other offerings and being able to leverage stuff I know like .Net is appealing. Sadly, we didn't use Azure (or any other cloud based system) for the project we considered it for *because* of the pricing, so that certainly is an issue.

The funny thing about the cloud is that a number of people/articles try to claim it will make it easier for two guys in a garage to do great things because they don't need to pre-buy a lot of hardware etc. I'm just not sure it always works out that way in the end (or that all the great things to come require that large an upfront investment anyway).
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