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I owe an apology for all the CCC fans...
I totally forgot that today is the breast surgery of my wife's best friend and I have to take care beside my kids of hers too...
I just was so pre-occupied all day, until now (almost eleven at night), that I just forgot...
Most sincere appologies...
(Specially to @OriginalGriff and @petepjksolutionscom, the only two recognized I'm gone)
(The good thing is I have now a spare clue to post  )
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." β Gerald Weinberg
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Apology accepted - these things happen.
You might want to discuss with pkfox who posts tomorrow?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I prefer not to post tomorrow - it is my weekend...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." β Gerald Weinberg
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No worries I will post tomorrows
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: the only two recognized I'm gone
They are the police of the CCC... it is their job  
Hope your wife's friend surgery went fine and gets a quick recovery.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: Hope your wife's friend surgery went fine and gets a quick recovery.
It is hers second - so recovery is a relative thing for her... But she will live, possibly long and happy life...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." β Gerald Weinberg
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I think I'm jumping guns here and look at things that are too advanced and I'm always missing some steps and that blocks me.
What would be a proper course progress ?
html -> css -> javascript/typescript (?) -> react/angular/vue (?) -> asp.net core (?) -> database (?) -> ..
Am I missing anything obvious ?
unless really necessary, I don't care about look and feel of the final results as long as it work, so I only need basic html and css.
I think I should probably do a good javascript course as it seems to be the big technology that everything else is based on (more or less).
Thanks.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Eloquent JavaScript[^] is a very good free online book. In addition, my suggestion is to just walk through some HTML-CSS-JS code already available on Github, in your domain of interest; I feel that will lead to faster learning.
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Without a specific goal (project) in mind, I find it impossible to learn "something"; it's like memorizing history dates.
And once you start that project, it "tells" you what you need and when; or at least what you don't know and need.
But, yes, start with HTML and create your first static web site; hosted by someone else.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Depends.
Surprise, huh? Do you want to play around to build some fun private stuff, or do you want to make yourself attractive on the job market?
For the latter, I might be mistaken, but I think that just knowing JavaScript β’ aint gonna cut most cakes. Experience from frameworks will be required. React and Angular will be found/required in rather dated systems. NodeJS is fresher, but I might be wronk, perhaps that is closer to the back end...
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Concerning Quote: Am I missing anything obvious ?
I think immediately about http, as this lurks  behind everything in web development, and also, quite soon on this path, OAuth 2.0 becomes quite obvious to learn. Keeping focus and interest is essential, despite so many different technologies within web development ... 
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Could an alien mothership be hovering around the solar system, sending out tiny probes to explore planets? According to a Harvard scientist and a Pentagon official, itβs possible.
In a draft paper, the pair said it is feasible an extraterrestrial spaceship could be in our galactic neighborhood, exploring the region by the means of "dandelion seeds" β small spacecraft that can gather and send back information, similar to the way humans send out spacecraft to explore planets.
Avi Loeb, an astronomer at Harvard University, and Sean M. Kirkpatrick, director of the Pentagonβs All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) β established in July 2022 by the Department of Defense (DoD) to detect and study "objects of interest" β released the draft, Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, on March 7. It is not an official Pentagon document, but was carried out in partnership with the DoD. It has not been peer-reviewed.
This was posted in a forum I haunt by somebody - it comes from LiveScience.
I responded:
Quote: > According to a Harvard scientist and a Pentagon official, itβs possible.
> In a draft paper, the pair said it is feasible an extraterrestrial spaceship could be in our galactic neighborhood
On its face, the two statements above aren't really saying anything except "maybe there are aliens". That's the History Channel game.
> It has not been peer-reviewed.
This is very important. It's not science without peer-review. It may as well be astrology.
This is just a fluff piece on some junk science.
I used to blame the journos for their ignorance about science and their rush to get clicks and attention for perpetuating this kind of thing.
But eventually I realized that really, it's our responsibility to be mindful of what we take into our minds in the same way that it applies with our bodies.
The reason this stuff gets spread around - the reason journos keep getting clicks for it in the first place - is a dearth of critical thinking skills.
Is it any surprise then, that conspiracy theories about on the Internet, and that that bleeds over into our reality? QAnon, et al.
In some western European countries they teach critical thinking in the classroom while kids are still young. It floors me that we don't do that in school where I live. It seems so fundamental to thinking.
Otherwise you just glom onto whatever affirms you or makes you feel good.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
modified 8hrs 20mins ago.
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My post was about critical thinking. I won't apologize for taking the position I have on it.
If it's boring, maybe skip my posts. I'm not sure you've considered that, so maybe the suggestion will be helpful.
Edit: Adding, your post reeks of self-affirmation. It sounds to me like you really want to believe you're especially clever or insightful in that you're hip to special knowledge most people aren't privy to. They're following an "approved narrative" and don't question authority, but you do . That's how people get hooked on conspiracies. It makes them feel important and smart.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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honey the codewitch wrote: In some western European countries they teach critical thinking in the classroom while kids are still young.
They seem more fixated on teaching gender theory these days.
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Whatever they're doing, Western Europe's schools perform far better than the ones in my country.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Do not worry... they are trying very hard to get to the same level...  
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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It's almost like if you critically think about it, not only is the evidence for it present in all cultures dating back thousands of years, but it affects literally everyone. As if the current reactionary climate surrounding the topic is due primarily to ignorance, which can be solved by... teaching.
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people don't want facts they want sensationalism.
facts are boring and require logical thoughtful deliberation.
Who wants to use their brains in our current society? I can't think of too many people who do.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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> Who wants to use their brains in our current society?
I think of the response among people to the "Spanish" Flu Pandemic in the early 20th century, as well as the response to smallpox vaccinations among some of the adult population and I think there's always been an undercurrent of intellectual laziness among a population of any size. Maybe the Internet made it worse. I don't know.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Maybe the Internet made it worse. I don't know.
It certainly allows it to travel broader and faster than ever before. 
TTFN - Kent
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