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OriginalGriff14-Feb-23 5:29

OriginalGriff

14-Feb-23 5:29

There is pretty much nowhere in the UK that you can't get some signal, and even in largely uninhabited wastelands like Oz they have satellite phones for where you can't get cell coverage.

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Mycroft Holmes14-Feb-23 11:43

Mycroft Holmes

14-Feb-23 11:43

OriginalGriff wrote:
they have satellite phones

And you REALLY do not want to tether a device to one of those. The cost used to be outrageous, not sure what it is now days.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
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den2k8813-Feb-23 20:42

den2k88

13-Feb-23 20:42

170 cm more or less

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trønderen14-Feb-23 0:40

trønderen

14-Feb-23 0:40

I'm old enough to remember when we got our first modems so we could make a long-distance call to the bulletin board, at something like 30 cents a minute, so the PC was set up to connect, deliver all outgoing (pre-written) messages to other individual users and discussion groups, copy all incoming mails and discussion entries, and take down the connection, all in one go with no stop to take manual input.

Nevertheless, the PC was an immensely useful tool, even in those days. Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular.

A similar 'Height of Stupidity' case:

I left my house for a three year project, and rented out my house during that period. Land line phone was still common in those days. I wanted to offer the tenants my modem and phone, and asked the phone company to change the name of the subscriber. They could send an installer to do that, for a price of 1500 NOK (roughly 150 Euro/USD). No, I said, I am not requesting any change of the installation - just a different name on the bill! Even the street address is unchanged! But they couldn't do that. To change the identity of the subscriber mandated that an installer be sent to perform the required installation changes, even if there were none, at the stated NOK 1500 cost.

This was in the early 1990s, mobile phones becoming more common, so I told the phone company to go su** d***, and terminated my contract with them.

dandy7214-Feb-23 2:30

14-Feb-23 2:30

trønderen wrote:
Kids of today don't understand that - 'offline' is a term that has been stripped from their vocabular.

"Offline", to them, means there's an outage and it should be back soon[*]. It's not a normal state of things.

[*] and it better be, or they start showing withdrawal symptoms within 8 minutes.

There's an entire generation of people now who simply don't know what to do with themselves if there's no internet. I suspect that come the apocalypse, they'll be the first to go.

Phil.Benson14-Feb-23 4:24

Phil.Benson

14-Feb-23 4:24

dandy72 wrote:
suspect that come the apocalypse, they'll be the first to go.

Something like "There Is a Rainbow Behind Every Dark Cloud"?

Who the f*** is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?

jschell14-Feb-23 5:11

jschell

14-Feb-23 5:11

dandy72 wrote:
There's an entire generation of people now who

But fortunately in the modern world they can still rape, pillage and burn. At least if you sign up for the right tourist stop.

dandy7214-Feb-23 6:15

14-Feb-23 6:15

jschell wrote:
But fortunately in the modern world they can still rape, pillage and burn

I've always believed the preppers are also gonna be some of the first to go, killed by the rest of the population who want their stuff.

Jeez, that quickly took a dark turn. Smile | :)

FreedMalloc14-Feb-23 8:18

FreedMalloc

14-Feb-23 8:18

Along that same dark vein...

Back during the Y2K panic I worked with a guy that was convinced it would be the end of modern civilization. He gave talks at various survivalist meetings about how it would happen. He had drums of kerosene and a generator that could run on that, gasoline or diesel, extra food, the whole nine yards.

I once asked him how many guns he had. I got a blank look back. I said I think I know where I'm going for New Year's Eve this year. His response was a nervous chuckle. I'd guess he went out and got a few but I don't know for sure.

dandy7215-Feb-23 3:53

15-Feb-23 3:53

This...exactly this.

I've been through a few situations where power outages lasted a few days. You don't need to get very far even into that for tempers to flare. It's pretty clear to me that human nature is just nasty; come the apocalypse (and I mean a real one), it's going to be anarchy, plain and simple.

The Walking Dead had an interesting start. But it won't end with the sharing is caring woke BS that it would have us believe in, in its later seasons...

jschell15-Feb-23 5:54

jschell

15-Feb-23 5:54

dandy72 wrote:
The Walking Dead had an interesting start. But it won't end with the sharing is caring woke BS that it would have us believe in, in its later seasons

Later seasons?

I didn't watch to the end but I watched quite a few and I don't remember any season that was not filled with a lot of viciousness and attempts to take from those that did not want to give.

dandy7216-Feb-23 4:54

16-Feb-23 4:54

jschell wrote:
a lot of viciousness and attempts to take from those that did not want to give.

There was plenty of this, to the very end. But it turned into a SJW show all about all-inclusive, woke culture, to the point where it was so in-your-face (and constantly so) I was looking forward to seeing this once-great show come to an end.

Andreas Saurwein14-Feb-23 2:47

Andreas Saurwein

14-Feb-23 2:47

Nothing like the good old Fido network. Laugh | :laugh:

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TNCaver14-Feb-23 11:05

TNCaver

14-Feb-23 11:05

FidoNet! The original worldwide email system. Those were the days.

There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas Sowell

A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Bill Watterson (Calvin & Hobbes)

PIEBALDconsult14-Feb-23 2:05

PIEBALDconsult

14-Feb-23 2:05

My issue is that Google Maps (Android phone) can't save a dropped pin (or at least can't label the pin) when I'm out in the desert away from service.
It boggles the mind.

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Shane010313-Feb-23 17:12

Shane0103

13-Feb-23 17:12

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Amarnath S13-Feb-23 18:58

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13-Feb-23 18:58

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13-Feb-23 19:12

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OriginalGriff13-Feb-23 19:37

OriginalGriff

13-Feb-23 19:37

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13-Feb-23 20:48

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