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Right...I was merely making the suggestion to build a beefy system but put it in another room (so the heat/noise isn't an issue for where you work), and then just RDP into it. I've been doing that for a few years now, and I wouldn't allow a loud PC back into my office.
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One good thing: You never need to spend money on buying an electric heater.
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I think I read a day or two ago that you want to stick with ITX. Why is that? Seems to me that limits your options.
Paul Sanders.
If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal.
Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.
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No. I'm avoiding ITX. My chassis fits MicroATX.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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This makes me feel better.
I've been buying the Precision Laptop/Workstations.
They are gamer designs I use for development. I don't play any games, so I sacrifice the GPU a bit.
(as long as I can run 4 monitors, or one 55inch 4k UHD, I am good).
BUT... That said... We've seen overheating issues. I could leave my old machine running for days.
Now I power off every night.
I also have a piece of wood UNDER the back of the machine to increase airflow. One of my devs has his sitting on a laptop cooler (5 fan design) as he doesn't have the A/C options, and the summer months are a problem.
I've noticed it's only getting worse.
FWIW, I agree with building machines for long-term. I shoot for 5yrs. After 2yrs, I usually buy a "cold spare" (A used version of the same computer, off-lease), and use it for testing/validating my backups (cloned drives).
I can't fathom getting 10yrs from a machine. Hardware (specifically USB seems to fail before that time).
But the cost of a new machine is on par with the 80 hrs it takes to move my licenses to it. In the last 2 builds, I've slowly started using more VMs for various development environments. I am hoping to get this down to 40hrs. The part I truly hate is LICENSED software tied to the DRIVE_ID (Quickbooks). So if I upgrade my hardrive, the software doesn't work until I jump through some hoops. But I have like 4 of those. It's just adding time to the process...
Finally comment on heat. One of the devs who was NOT cooling his machine ran into NVME issues where the drives were getting too hot and faulting. He actually assumed the drive was bad, and went through the restore process (swapping back to the previously cloned drive, and then restoring from backup any changed files).
The next day, he checked the the drive he replaced, and it was working fine! Scary.
I read somewhere that some building in iceland/greenland uses BTC miners to heat the building.
Basically the BTC is a wash for the energy consumption, and the heat is now beneficial. Probably the most expensive heater ever built. (Not sure it's a true store or it was a plan, FWIW).
But I feel your heated pain!
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I should have written that I shoot for 10 years. Realistically I end up replacing or upgrading components along the way, like adding more RAM, or an NVMe (although in this case I'm starting with NVMe sys drive, and RAID 1 NVMe x3 secondary storage so I can't get much faster than that with current tech. I designed it such that my read speeds off secondary storage will saturate my PCIe 3.0 bus.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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This is why I built a Ryzen 5950x system. Best performance per watt. I am hoping power consumption will come down again before I need the next upgrade.
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I'm looking for the best single core performance I can keep properly cooled, not the most efficient.
My i5 CPU slightly bests a 9xxx ryzen 7 on GCC benchmarks.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Always use the largest tower-case you can find that will work.
Not only will it provide a better aerated machine but make it much easier to work when building or maintaining the machine...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Nope. Towers mount the mobo vertical and thus suffer GPU sag. Also my thermaltake open-air chassis is quite good at cooling, and can fit a 4090 video card if I wanted to.
Towers waste space anyway. My little glass cube doubles as a shelf. =)
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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My son ordered a new high performance tower with liquid cooling for the CPU for game development, and I had to buy him a room air conditioner for it.
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You will also need to renegotiate your terms-and-conditions with your energy company... unless you have your own power plant.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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#Worldle #302 3/6 (100%)
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🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜↖️
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr
Sort of binary search. Had to peek, knew where but not sure of name
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Am I the only one who's never heard of it until now?
Does anyone listen to it to block out distractions? I normally use white noise but this may also be as good...
<update>
lofi hip hop radio - YouTube
</update>
modified 20-Nov-22 9:10am.
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Sounds vaguely familiar but could not name any examples, Wikipedia to the rescue!

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If you like Lofi, also check out Vaporware.
(No, it means something entirely different with music as opposed to software.)
Cheers,
Vikram.
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Looks promising!
The trick is to find something that itself doesn't become a distraction and isn't annoying. This may be it, I may give it a go...
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Indivara wrote: Does anyone listen to it to block out distractions? Nah, I just sing along with the music on the radio
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Saw that in the The Insider News[^], Mr. Sharkey never rests.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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About a week ago I spent around 20 minutes testing if I could tell the difference.
Which Face Is Real?
I had a perfect score, you just need to look really hard for pixel glitches. But I think the StyleGAN will eventually win, there were a few I couldn't tell the difference, was pure Luck I got some right. I guess the algorithms will continue to improve.
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Very few people know that the problems with Apollo 13 were actually caused by space bears rooting around in the thrusters for toothpaste ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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