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honey the codewitch wrote: I want to shorten my compile times What are your build times now?
I'm curious, as I developed and maintain our build automation. My experience has been that faster disk (e.g. RAID and more drives) has more influence than any other factor, but that is probably due to the characteristics of what we build. In other words, YMMV. When we upgraded our server from 5 drives in a RAID-5 to 24 drives, our build time went from 90 minutes to just under 20. Adding RAM or better/more CPU's (these are server boxes) just didn't provide the same Δumph.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Depends on what I'm building. STM32 code takes minutes. The ESP-IDF takes a full minute.
That doesn't sound like a lot, but the tools I use happen to like to rebuild all every time you look at it cross eyed, so it adds up fast.
While I was on this thread, I was looking up other options to speed up my compile times.
I thought NVMe was as good as it got. I didn't know you could RAID them affordably, so I didn't even think speeding up my drives was an option.
Then I found this: HYPER M.2 X16 CARD V2|Motherboards|ASUS Global[^]
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Sounds like a nice piece of metal. I wonder why single core performance is critical when you have two dozen cores.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Because in practice, core utilization drops dramatically after the first 1.5 cores or so.
Particularly when it's stuff that doesn't lend itself to parallelization.
In this case I want to decrease my compile times.
I *just now* found out I can RAID stripe multiple NVMe .2s tho, for $80 + the cost of the drives.
Asus HYPER M.2 X16 GEN 4 CARD Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 Card (PCIe 4.0/3.0) - Newegg.com[^]
That should net me way more perf going from max 20GBPs to max 128GBPs, even more than ramping up my CPU.
But single core gains will net me all around crunching power in ways that throwing more cores at it won't.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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And you still want 24 of them! Not exactly what I would qualify as a low number...
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Well, I'd be happy with far less, but ultimately, this chip seems to give me the best per core performance metrics.
Also a lot of the intels aren't "symmetrical" i guess you could say. This one has 8 "performance cores" and 16 "efficient cores"
That way they can stack beefier primary cores on the device and save transistors/heat on the less used secondaries
Bottom line for me is I'm not looking at this chip for the core count. I'd be happy with a really hot quad core or something, but this is what is available for top shelf per core performance
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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This is right track.
higher performance mass storage to get better compile times.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Sorry it's early - I've got a busy day.
(not part of the clue)
Tortured soul on it? (8)
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Solution ?
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Damn! I was hoping "(not part of the clue)" was going to be missed as part of the clue ... but I couldn't resist it!
Well done - you are up tomorrow!
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That part went over my head - I saw tortured as the anagram indicator of soul on it and... - Nice try though
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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... really loves Bambi.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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In a bun?
On a screen?
Or ... something worse ... ?
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In a stew. But it's 9 AM and now I crave for a deer stew and polenta.
This will be a long, long day.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I had a nice Irish Stew in the Irish Pub in Leeuwarden last saturday 
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I did a beef stew in the pressure cooker last week - it was pretty good.
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Stop it! you're making me hungry, and it's still an hour 'till lunch!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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And on a camping trip in Norway I once had stew with reindeer meat: Lapskaus[^]

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Do you really want to know, Griff ?
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Only so I can tell the animal cruelty people if necessary ...
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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My brother-in-law makes the best deer meat sauce picante you ever tasted.
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I make the best I have ever tested!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I went to buy a couple of venison steaks, but I found that they were too dear.
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Didn't you have the doe
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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They told me I had type A blood, but it was a type O.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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