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I just read the article by JOE PROCOPIO declaring that those who pooh-pooh no-code/MVP are just haters. But you have to bear in mind that JOE PROCOPIO created and sells a no-code product. So of course he would write an article like this. He also declares that he really doesn't care what anyone thinks about no-code. That he was a long time coder himself and saw the light.
To be fair, there are a few no-code products. Most are done and have survived over decades; usually done by large companies like Microsoft. Excel is a prime example. But those kind of successes are relatively rare. I won't get into the overuse/abuse of business users using Excel sheets as a database.
On the other hand, I am not so sure JOE PROCOPIO is either aware, or had to confront, products purported to be low/no-code products that were a disaster - as I pointer out in an earlier discussion - BizTalk, also created by Microsoft; just to mention a few.
Lastly I need to point out, again, that these no-code tools almost always get pushed back to IT with requests for changes/additions/enhancements; and that's where the rubber does not meet the road. This side of his article leaves this issue out.
And as he states in his article, I am saying that I don't care what these no-code companies or Joe says, I will find it simply to hard to believe that this never happens. And my question would be - 'Will the request for change(s)/enhancement(s) be for free'? The usual response by these companies are 'We will evaluate change requests in the coming future versions. Thank you for your input'.
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Member 14840496 wrote: That he was a long time coder himself and saw the light.
And of course used a pure no-code approach to create his product...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Exactly! https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/smiley_laugh.gif
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(for old members of CP)
Are we talking about he who should not be named ?
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Nope. I believe.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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I find it suspicious that his name spelled backwards reads OI POCORP
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I don't think JOE ever had a real business problem to solve. SCRATCH is "no-code". LEGO is "no-code"; essentially puzzle pieces like a plumbing system ... if you need a plumbing system.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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SCRATCH
I wrote a two player backgammon game in scratch with no rules enforced.
I wanted to make a one player version good enough to beat a kindergartner.
I had to switch to C# with the crudest of data structures(just arrays) to develop the logic.
No way I could have developed and tuned the algorithm in scratch.
I was more interested in SCRATCH because the earlier versions were developed in Squeak smalltalk. A good language and core library to study.
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Member 14840496 wrote: That he was a long time coder himself and saw the light.
It is a disease which needs a cure that many developers think they know how to make the world an infinitely better place.
Idioms that are successful take over the market place. Object oriented programming and relational databases are examples.
In contrast attempts to create solutions that do not require coding have existed since at least the 80s yet no one uses any of them.
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I know you have been missing these
Does Santa run his Reindeer on Rails?
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I thought he just sent them Forth.
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I C what you did there.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Nope, there is too much Whitespace at the north pole.
Hogan
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Silent worker forgot the point of sport (6)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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We give in
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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And there was I thinking it would go in moments ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I mean use of the word "uncertainty" - in every news related program that's on at the moment!  It's seems to be the new way to stir up a sh!t-storm about Covid. Up until yesterday it was all about the "uncertainty" of being able to celebrate Christmas. Now that "uncertainty" has been knocked on the head, they've move on to "uncertainty" for the New Year.
Well... I'd like to explain something to all the news people who are currently giving air time to anyone that wants to say the word "uncertainty": NOTHING IN LIFE IS CERTAIN. And no-one, (no, not even Boris), can predict the future. There was no such thing as Omicron six weeks ago. I could get run over by a bus tomorrow. There might be an alien invasion in 2022. Who knows? So stop jumping on the "uncertainty" band-wagon and start actually giving us real news. 
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5teveH wrote: NOTHING IN LIFE IS CERTAIN.
Except ... death and taxes*.
* Daniel Defoe
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Except ... death and taxes*.
Well yes, taxes - unless you are a billionaire - or Jimmy Carr. 
And I'm betting Musk and a few others are working on the death thing too.
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5teveH wrote: I'd like to explain something to all the news people
Is there CodeProject for a "news people"? They would be happy to read this explanation (if they know to read anything).
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11917640 Member wrote: CodeProject for a "news people"
It's called "Twitter", and its users are called...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Be afraid, be very afraid. In other news (as related by my two-year old granddaughter), Santa got stuck up a chimney.
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Told him that he was getting too fat.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I hear what you say. But are you really certain?
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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