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craving for power, this morning I ordered a toy for myself on eBay: Dell Precision T5810 workstation with 6-Core /3.5ghz/ 16gb/ ddr4/ 256gb.
diligent hands rule....
modified 27-Nov-21 15:27pm.
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Southmountain wrote: 6-Core /3.5ghz/ 16gb/ ddr4/ 256gb.
[Checks calendar]
No offense, but what is that thing replacing?
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it will be used for my data mining application(only one) to run all day long.
diligent hands rule....
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While this doesn't in any way answer the specific question I asked, it does provide some insight as to why a system with so (comparatively) little RAM or storage space is perfectly acceptable for its intended use.
Cool. 
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According to PCMagazine[^]
Quote: a gargantuan single-processor desktop workstation with an astronomical price tag
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I paid $400 only, it has a coprocessor:xeon phi coprocessor 3120p.
this coprocessor price tag is still $120 currently.
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It does not even have a NVMe SSD? Vintage 2016?
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I was thinking that 256Gb is pretty small these days... My old (2017?) laptop came with a 128Gb SSD as a system drive (1Tb hard drive as D: ) and the C: drive is full, despite that being just the Windows volume, all user data and programs on the D: drive.
I think SouthMountain's gonna need an upgrade soon! 
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this machine is running only one application and 256G is sufficient already,
also it has a caddy for NVMe SSD and I have one available(Samsung512G).
diligent hands rule....
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I suggest you install the NVMe and use it as your systems drive. Use the SATA SSD for your data. You will find it worthwhile. And: I swear by Samsung NVMes. They are the best!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I take your suggestions!![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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I agree. Personally, I like to buy "10 year systems." - systems that are viable for that long without major upgrades.
I've found that getting gamers machines without the video card makes a perfect dev workstation. They're powerful, fast, and when you get the right ones they use top shelf components.
There's an outfit in the US called Computer Upgrade King, or CUKUSA. Despite the silliness of their name, they sell top notch systems on the cheap, and with good equipment in them, and they sell on amazon even. Their support is a small team in the US (I kept getting the same guy the day I was calling over a windows reinstallation issue which turned out to be my fault) but they know what they are doing. Or at least he did.
Gotta say @Southmountain - if you can order from those folks, when you're ready for a new system, you should consider buying from them. I get all my computers through them these days.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Personally, I stay well away from multi-monitor configurations. These days it makes more sense to get a big QLED HDTV or something. I run a 55" at home. use Windows key+Arrow keys to move windows to different quadrants of the display. At 4k you have almost 4000 pixels across. It's plenty of room to run multiple apps side by side. Multimon complicates anydesk sessions, and has an ugly lack of continuity between screens, plus sometimes it just breaks (although that is less common these days unless you're doing something weird like USB to HDMI to get the extra screen(s))
That's me though. I do recommend looking at prices on HDTVs before you decide to go multimon though. I think you'll find the experience of a single, large screen is better.
Real programmers use butterflies
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thanks for great tips!
diligent hands rule....
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it has a caddy for NVMe, but I have one NVMe SSD in my hand now(Samsung).
so I will install it myself and got some feel.
diligent hands rule....
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Good move. My main workstation is a 7 year old 5810, it runs 'nix on NVME in caddy, has 2 spinny-go-rounds in hardware RAID mirror, 2 other (1tb) SSD's for virtual machines. I run 3 or 4 VM's at a time with no degradation, probably handle more. I have a VM running DOS 5.0 in case I need to run Edlin  .
I have another 5810 that is running ESXi, mirroring a clients system that runs 4 Windows VM's, it also has a Windows system with BlueIris connected to security cameras, been running 24/7. I have an ancient, creaking T3600 running TrueNAS for backup, powered off most of the time. I think these systems are bargains on eBay. All 3 have Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v3 (6 core), which is decent if not impressive.
W11 runs OK, don't know if it will keep updating (also don't care at this point in time).
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Cool! How much did it cost (approx) - for curiosity sake.
Nick Polyak
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$450(tax included).
configuration:
Dell Precision T5810
6-Core 3.5ghz turbo 4.0ghz
16gb ddr4
256gb ssd (sata)
dell nvme caddy but (no nvme ssd included)
xeon phi coprocessor 3120p
nvidia nvs310 video card (dual display port) also single to dual display port adapter (a total of three monitors can be connected)
DVD Rom
speaker/mic inputs/outputs
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pretty good price. Thanks
Nick Polyak
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hey Southmountain, shoot me a private message. Your defaults prevent me from writing you privately.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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not sure if this is working: I enabled this option and you may be able to send me private messages now
Allow private email replies to this message
diligent hands rule....
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nope not yet - but ping me at cgilley2640@gmail.com. I want to get some info from you (your project posting).
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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After reading positive reviews about Zorin OS, an Ubuntu based Linux distro, I decided to try out the Lite version.
See: Zorin OS 16 is exactly what a Linux desktop distribution should be - TechRepublic[^]
Installing on an old laptop from an USB drive went smoothly, even an old NVidia graphics card was detected.
It was quite a surprise that everything went so smoothly considering I don't have any Linux experience.
Also everything a normal user could want is pre-installed, like a browser, an office-suite, some simple games and several handy utilities 
But not being a normal user I went looking for trouble: hey let's install Visual Studio Code and try out .NET Core 6.0 I thought.
Not being used to Visual Studio Code, that did not go very smoothly and especially installing the .NET Core SDK and getting VS Code to work with it was a painful experience.
I ended up spending half a day to get a simple "Hello World" example working 
So for the time being I think I will not continue my coding adventures in VS Code ...
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