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I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Dave 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Hello David, Shall we play a game? 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I'm afraid you gonna realize soon how simple a human brain is
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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My SO is hard pressed to throw away something that she thinks she'll be able to use later.
Last night she was cleaning up her computer area, rounding up software she'll need for a fresh install and brought me a disk and asked if it was any good. Windows 95
I don't have a floppy or I would throw it on a VM just for kicks so I gave it back to her and she put it back on the shelf.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Quote: My SO is hard pressed to throw away something that she thinks she'll be able to use later.
Count your blessings. It's the reason you're still around!
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Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Someone was asking about an FDD adapter a while back...
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A disk, as in, a floppy?
The 95 installer was available on a set of 21 floppies. If you just have one, it's gotta be something like just a repair disk and nothing else. Not useful.
And as far as I know, 95 won't run under Hyper-V (at least that was the case in the few first versions, then I gave up trying), so if you want it on a VM, you'll have to use something like VMware or VirtualBox.
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dandy72 wrote: The 95 installer was available on a set of 21 floppies. If you just have one, it's gotta be something like just a repair disk and nothing else. Not useful.
Yeah you're probably right.
dandy72 wrote: something like VMware or VirtualBox
I use VirtualBox
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Win95 was available on a CD-ROM as well.
When I replaced my old PC with a floppy-less one, I bought an external USB floppy drive. It won't read all my old 5.25" real floppies (the 3.5" ones in a stiff plastic shell won't flop at all!) - but one problem is that since Windows XP, the driver insists on finding a format code in the boot sector indicating whether this is a 360K, 720K, 1.44M or 2.88M disk.
I guess that all official Windows releases were written to floppies with a proper format code, but several of the major blank floppy vendors sold 'preformatted' disks, which had the proper sector layout written to the disk, but without writing the format code to the boot sector. DOS and earlier Windows versions then tried reading the disk, assuming one format after the other, until it came upon one that worked. With XP, MS said 'This is silly - if there is no format code, we are not going out on a hunt, but treat the disk the way it claims to be: Unformatted!
So your major reason for keeping a pre-XP machine alive is to read old floppies that you bought as 'preformatted' but without the proper format code in the boot sector. There might possibly be some 3rd party USB floppy driver out there that can read those half-formatted floppies, even under Win 10, but I never heard of any. (If you can point me to one, I will ditch my old Win95 machine tomorrow!)
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Visual Basic 4. It came on 6 floppies. With a read error on disc 5
One of the best buys ever.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Worked some, not long ago on VS6 Basic and C++.
It was an eye opener to say the least.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Mike Hankey wrote: not long ago on VS6 Basic
It's VB6.
Mike Hankey wrote: It was an eye opener to say the least.
Especially C++, VB6 and DCOM. Nuke if from orbit.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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It was Visual Studio Version 6.0 IDE.
Setting up dependencies was a nightmare.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Mike Hankey wrote: It was Visual Studio Version 6.0 IDE.
Still called VB6.
Mike Hankey wrote: Setting up dependencies was a nightmare.
Made me hate DCOM.
Might been a good idea at the time, but worked out severely elephanted. I will not touch it, nuke it from orbit. That's the only way to be sure.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Nothing a small thermonuclear device wouldn't cure. 
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Still called VB6.
Nope.
Visual Studio 6 was Microsoft's 2nd IDE, containing VB6, C++, J++, and FoxPro. VS6 and VB6 are not the same thing, no more than VS 2019 and C# are the same thing.
Oddly enough, VS97 and VS6 are still available for download from 3rd party sites. Can't say I can see a use for either, but they are available.
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Dear Support,
I can't log in to Microsoft Teams (detailed info follows).
Support: log off teams, reboot (I crap you not) and try again.
 
Want to bet they did something on the backend to my account?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Their solution is a stock answer from the initial contact that you reach in any support team. If it's a browser problem, the suggestion is always to clear your cache and, if that fails, your cookies. All of these could be suggested by a recorded message, but they need to screen you by knowing that you tried it and it failed before transferring you to someone useful.
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It used to be we had a local office in our building, we could go talk to them. Over the past years, the company has started siloing everything into corporate headquarters. I can't get support without an open ticket. Over 75% of my tickets are never resolved.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: I can't get support without an open ticket. Over 75% of my tickets are never resolved.
Oh man, can I relate to that 
I once had a ticket up to level 4 (the "so called guru") just to get such a sh*tty answer, I could not believe what I was reading...
We had to hijack it ourselves at the end. 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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And this is why IT has a bad reputation with business users. Just remember, it's not the IT folks at fault, it's management for failing to ensure sufficient resources.
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in all fairness, they do try. I only get pissed off when they want to close a ticket that's been open 8 months. Makes them look bad. Have they fixed it? No.
what's entertaining is that years ago IT outsourced everything office to Microsoft. So we're now in the Microsoft support loop, which if I'm being polite is an oxymoron. Anyone who has ever gone out to the Microsoft support anything forums gags at the polite, "we are very sorry this has happened to you" garbage.
context of the issue: I'm a contractor, I have a number of machines that I use to support my customers. I want to be able to use Teams from any of the machines, so I can stay in touch. None of the machines will log into Teams.
Suggestion 1: Have you tried uninstalling and installing Teams?
me: thinking, wtf would I do that?
After considering it a bit, why not try, no need to be a beech. So I do, uninstall, go to the link to download, smooth, shazzham it works now. I'm pleasantly surprised.
Go to the laptop, uninstall Teams, use the *exact* same download link - Microsoft won't download, they want me to shop. Surely cookie driven, but really, whatever happened to going to the html link?
plowed through it, Teams installed back to the same error.
We now have the sad situation where IT can shrug its shoulders and say, "Hey, Microsoft, what ya gonna do?"
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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There's a long time since I did not came back on CP; had a lot to deal with since last year, covid, it nearly got me, and then I changed my job, for something entirely different.
Now that I can spend my free time on personal projects again, I spontaneously came back to C/C++; never did significant projects with it, though, but I like steep learning curves.
So, cheers to all of you! :ale:
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Welcome back! Glad to hear that you're OK.
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