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(Exactly!) YAUT!
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
modified 6-Oct-21 8:04am.
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Yesterday, I performed a clean new installation of Visual Studio 2022 Preview 4.1 on my new pc. Well, I find it interestingly that "ASP.NET Web Application (.NET Framework)" (which refers to webforms) is not available in the project type.
I still can open existing ASP.NET webforms projects, but however, if I want to add a new .aspx page, it's not available too.
Before this, the webforms project type is available in 2022 Preview 4, and I'm doing the development of webforms and it's working fine. but now webforms seems to disappear in 2022 Preview 4.1.
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Update Oct 17th, 2021
Ok guys, you still can do ASP.NET webforms in Visual Studio 2022 Preview. It's just that, ASP.NET webforms project elements are listed as optional item.
Below are the "optional" items (under ASP.NET section) that you need to manually select it to install while installing Visual Studio 2022.
- .NET Framework project and item templates
- .NET Framework 4.8 development tools
- .NET Framework 4.6.2-4.7.1 development tools
- Additional project templates (previous versions)
modified 17-Oct-21 7:52am.
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Sounds like something to raise with Microsoft for them to add to their pile of ignore.
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They should name it back, and take everyone involved in the change out behind building 8 and fire them.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Sooo, fire them as in 'you're fired', or set them on fire, or use a firing squad 
Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)
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That's why I said take them out behind building 8, so the other employees are left wondering.
That way the same mistake is never repeated.
Real programmers use butterflies
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You should not be doing webforms anymore.
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Maybe, but then there's economic realities and legacy considerations.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Ok guys, you still can do ASP.NET webforms in Visual Studio 2022 Preview. It's just that, ASP.NET webforms project elements are listed as optional item.
Below are the "optional" items (under ASP.NET section) that you need to manually select it to install while installing Visual Studio 2022.
- .NET Framework project and item templates
- .NET Framework 4.8 development tools
- .NET Framework 4.6.2-4.7.1 development tools
- Additional project templates (previous versions)
modified 17-Oct-21 7:52am.
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Q: How many government employee does it takes to change a light bulb?
A: We'll have a sub-committee meeting and get back to you with an estimate!
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That's not a joke. It's standard procedure for government departments. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I know, sorry...
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And large automotive conglomerates
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: And large automotive company conglomerates
FTFY... not only automotive.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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With increasing size, any administration will be more and more busy just administrating itself. Probably some variant of the law of diminishing returns.
It applies to almost everything, like project management or even operating systems. The more resources there are to manage, the more of these resources will be / must be used to do that. The government is just the worst case, because they have so much to manage and the largest horde of people to do that.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
modified 6-Oct-21 5:44am.
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And to make it worse, any time governments or large corporations lay off people, it's always at the bottom so the next round of growth just increases the administrative overhead.
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While this is true, there is hidden benefit to a system growing large enough to achieve adaptive complexity.
When enough agents get added to the system it takes on the properties of a Complex Adaptive System. Such systems exhibit a "life of their own" wherein the behavior of the individual agents does not linearly impact nor reflect the behavior of the system as a whole, but the system adapts to change and stress, and will defend itself, proving incredibly resilient.
Other entities that exhibit the properties of a CAS are economies, ecosystems, societies (we have extragovernmental unwritten rules we live by that are a product of culture) and well, particularly any human construct with enough people involved.
There is overhead involved. The process of adapting under such a system often looks like throwing things at a wall to see what sticks, but nevertheless over time, it works to the benefit of the survival of the system.
Coke survived New Coke.
Microsoft survived Windows ME
The US government survived <insert your least favorite US president>
Real programmers use butterflies
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Don't they usually recommend that they set up an interdepartmental committee with fairly broad terms
of reference so that at the end of the day they will be in the position to think through the various
implications and arrive at a decision based on long-term considerations rather than rush prematurely
into precipitate and possibly ill-conceived action which might well have unforeseen repercussions.
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Indeed my friend, indeed.
I can recognize expert knowledge at work here!
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I was in Iceland a couple of years ago and saw the lights and can't say as I heard them make any noise.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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You should have waited for the crack of dawn.
Mircea
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Crack of Dawn[^]
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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