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I can also attest to laser printers. We bought one 4 years ago, and just replaced the provided toner cartridges about a month ago. We don’t print much, and this majorly saves money. It also has flatbed and feed scanners.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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charlieg wrote: as soon as we get the return label printed
Classic. People in returns dept are probably twiddling their thumbs, pleased no-one ever sends them anything. (Like the time, long ago, I had to install the drivers for a new CD drive. That was fine; they came on a CD.)
Re ink vs laser; I've had a Brother inkjet (multi-function) for about 10 years, very "patchy" load on printing, and never had the "ink drying up" issue. What I have had is a useful scanner and fax machine reduced to junk by Microsoft updating driver requirements - even in "minor upgrades" to Win10 - so that if I want to scan something I now have to fire up a VMWare box running XP and then fight VMWares/Windows networking complexities to try and get the resulting scan somewhere useful. Oh, and I can't remotely monitor ink levels any more, again due to software incompatibilities introduced without my say-so by Microsoft.
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I have not been able to get VMWare to get through my wifi to the internet. I changed to VirtualBox and succeeded.
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When i heard (with brain in a fully caffeinated state) about the Cult of Zucker site outages:
First, i heard Neil Young singing: "There was a band playing in my head" [^]
Then, i heard the Good Witch singing: [^]
p.s. in Thai, "ding-dong" (where the 'd' sounds more like a 't') means "crazy," or, can refer to someone babbling, or someone stupid, or to the sound of a noisy argument ... depending on which Thai you ask to define it, and what context.
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Twitter has been having fun with the outage: The Funniest Twitter Reactions To Facebook / Instagram / WhatsApp Outage[^]
Unfortunately the top one "Facebook outage deals a huge blow to independent vaccine research" is more true than funny ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Hi Griff,
the idea of a dependency between facebook and any kind of research frightens me ! do the hens trust the fox to run their forum ? 
i've never tweeted, use instag only to check up on my brother from time to time, never whatsapped, lined, or linkedin.
started using facebook to access a local buy/sell forum where sometimes there are real bargains on sale by expats leaving the country, and to participate in a local creative-writing group. i hate facebook !
cheers, curmudgeon bill
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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BillWoodruff wrote: curmudgeon bill
Join the club (or don't; see if we care!)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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yo ... if you in it, i'll join up 
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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What if twitter goes down as well?
Then all twitter and Facebook users would have to start using Pornhubs chat function instead. That would be a huge blow to Pornhubs reputation.
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Pornhub ? Is that software, or hardware ?
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Starts with hardware, then becomes software, I understand.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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You're clearly more experienced with this than I - I didn't know they even had a chat function! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: That would be a huge blow ...
Wouldn't that be a good thing for them? 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: good thing for them?
if the punters weren't just paying lip-service, i think so. 
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: Pornhub's
Is that something like github? Asking for a friend...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Oh no Anti-Social media is down, what a shame.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Are you seeing this ? (bug report i filed today with MS VS dev site)
Quote: Win 10/64 Microsoft Visual Studio Community 2019 Version 16.11.3
Windows Forms App (.Net Framework)
.NET 5.0 C# 4.8
The outline view is now replaced by a flat text-file that forces you to read through code examples in different languages before finding an example in the language you are working in. Example of what you see now when you click F1 with "UserControl" selected
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.windows.forms.usercontrol?view=net-5.0
The explanatory text is often of poor quality technically; the code examples often flawed, or irrelevant. While VS documentation has been mediocre/confusing/poorly-written/inconsistent since the beginning (and MSDN support utterly useless), at least you could get to a quick outlined summary of essential object attributes ... until now.
I consider this such a serious flaw, that I would now never recommend Visual Studio.
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Looks normal to me. The code sample is all C# which accords with my default selection, and I can use the copy widget to get the complete sample. Also I can switch to VB, F# or C++ by using the dropdown at the top of the page.
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Thanks, Richard,
Looking at that page with Chrome, no ad-blocker, the language filtering selection drop-down appears, but contains no drop-down items.
Examples shown in C/C++, VB, C#. Some examples targeted to other flavors of C# WinForms than Windows Forms App (.Net Framework).
The key issue for me is not being able to quickly go to a specific object's Property, Method, Event, etc. definition, and get the "gist" of it: that's what most of my doc look-up is about.
Hypothesis: a pattern has emerged: you take on the role of "defender" of criticism of MS docs, MSDN. That may mean nothing, or something; i can live with that
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
modified 5-Oct-21 5:09am.
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BillWoodruff wrote: Chrome, no ad-blocker
Same as me, so no idea why your view is different. I just tried again with the link in your original message and it is still all correct.
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Hi,
Are you able to access the old outline view by any other means ?
Did you launch the browser by selecting "UserControl" and F! in a C# 5 enabled project design-time Form view like mine ?
Hypothesis: something to do with Community edition VS ? I used to use Enterprise.
thanks, Bill
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
modified 5-Oct-21 6:59am.
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Sorry Bill, I don't have C# 5 installed.
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Works in Edge; list of fields, methods, and hyperlinks on the right to jump to those sections. Found the language-drop down.
I too like MSDN documentation - remember that it is huge, spanning multiple products, and still it is consistent. DevExpres uses a similar template and then puts a one-line-placeholder text to "fill" the page.
BillWoodruff wrote: I consider this such a serious flaw, that I would now never recommend Visual Studio.
What would you recommend?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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