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It's the (young) unvaccinated people who get sick and then infect the old and vulnerable. Not getting vaccinated is an extremely selfish attitude to have. You can indirectly cause the death of a vulnerable person!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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You live your life in fear, and you want the world to be afraid just like you.
People like you are part of the problem with people not wanting to get vaccinated. Your constant, unrelenting soapbox preaching, its too much, and people just tune you out now.
Disagree with me all you want, I know I am correct.
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Just keep away from me ..
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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You'd better keep away anyway, because being vaccinated neither prevents you from getting it nor spreading it. Unlike vaccines for various diseases typically caught in childhood, these are of poor efficacy. With all the variants cropping up--soon we'll be out of Greek letters--it'll be like flu vaccines, which must be taken annually. In fact, biannually is often touted. Eventually you'll have to be injected in the butt, because your arm is going to look like a junkie's. 
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Based on the commment, one would think that programmers would be more "logical" ... apparently not; just more venom.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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/ravi
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Sounds like ignorance has got the best of some of your types!
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Cp-Coder wrote: It's the (young) unvaccinated people who get sick and then infect the old and vulnerable.
I talked with a recruiter on Friday and his whole family, kids and wife, and parents have all just come down with covid and they were ALL fully vaccinated.
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Member 15329613 wrote: have all just come down with covid and they were ALL fully vaccinated.
Soliders wearing keblar do die too.
Vaccines only reduce spreading and severity. They don't make you 100% inmune. And some preparates are some less effective than others
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Nelek wrote: They don't make you 100% inmune
I believe the measles and polio and chickenpox and other required childhood ones do.
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I don't think there is 100% security in anything except that we will all die sooner or later.
Those vaccines are like 98% or 99% but not 100%, that's why when the huge amount of people unvaccinated came in 2015, there were again some increase on measles in Germany.
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Cp-Coder wrote: You can indirectly cause the death of a vulnerable person!
How dare you drive your car everyday. You might kill someone! So selfish.
Hopefully that hyperbole will resonate.
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The important bit is that driving a car it is assumed that you will act in a manner to not cause harm to others - that's why you have to have a valid licence, why the "rules of the road" exist. If you act in a manner that is likely to cause harm to others - driving drunk, running red lights, speeding past a school bus, having completely bald tyres or shot brakes, ... - then legal sanctions exist to punish you for your lack of consideration.
You are ignoring that implicit requirement as far as Covid is concerned.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Mortality of polio - ~ 0.2%-3%
Mortality of measles - 0.1%
From the CDC:
Before 1963, approximately 500,000 cases and 500 measles deaths were reported annually, with epidemic cycles every 2 to 3 years.
Approximately 70% of all polio infections in children are asymptomatic. Quote: Less than 1% of all polio infections in children result in flaccid paralysis.
Quote: The case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults.
Not many people complain about the vaccinations for measles and polio (loonies not counted).
I don't think it's a question of "fear", but of "common sense" to use the tools we have to prevent disease.
TTFN - Kent
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Kent Sharkey wrote: I don't think it's a question of "fear", but of "common sense" to use the tools we have to prevent disease.
Sadly, common sense is not that common. 
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Aye!
/ravi
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Kent Sharkey wrote: to use the tools we have to prevent disease.
But the vaccination does not prevent the disease in this case.
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No, but it is a big help if you manage to avoid hospital because the severity decreases a lot for the most people.
There always are exceptions, but the big % gets benefits from it.
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Hey, I'm not wearing seatbelts because they don't prevent accidents. Look at how smart I am!
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The OP claimed the vaccination prevents disease.
den2k88 wrote: I'm not wearing seatbelts because they don't prevent accidents.
Your analogy does not work because no one has ever claimed that seatbelts prevent accidents.
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No... it is just a tool to get less injured in case of an accident.
The same as vaccines lesser the severity / chances of getting ill for that disease.
You can have an accident / get ill anyways, but the results are statistically going to be less... what it doesn't mean that you might get the black peter and the worst accident / illness possible, no matter what you do against it.
Probability is a b1tch.
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Nelek wrote: if you manage to avoid hospital
There was an interesting study done recently and I don't recall the exact numbers, but it was something like 75% of people overestimate the likelihood of having to go to the hospital if they got covid. It's only a 5-7% chance you'll be hospitalized but most people think it is way higher.
Nelek wrote: but the big % gets benefits from it.
In this case I am not convinced. So many people that are vaccinated are still getting it and of course there is no way to prove that the vaccine prevented you from getting covid.
Also, there are lots of links to health problems caused by the vaccination.
In the beginning they likened this to the flu and unfortunately that's exactly how it's behaving, meaning the vaccine from 3 months ago may no longer be good.
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How many medicaments for a thing give problems in another thing?
And still many are happy to get the "collateral damages" because the primary reason for that medicament is way worse.
Again... probability / statistics.
There are some cases getting side effects (more or less severe), there are some cases getting ill although they are vaccinated, I know.
But the important thing are the big numbers, not the concrete cases.
And yes, I know it sucks if one is the concrete case.
Member 15329613 wrote: In the beginning they likened this to the flu and unfortunately that's exactly how it's behaving, meaning the vaccine from 3 months ago may no longer be good.
Maybe. I hope not, but it might be... we'll see.
Flu alike or not Flu alike, it will stay for a while... that's for sure.
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Cp-Coder was as near as I can tell merely making a reasonably logical deduction as to the motivation of those late comers in response to the many such reported deaths w/ no intention of scaring anyone As for being scared it seems a logical response to what may be a serious condition As for the media's intentions as near as I can tell they are merely reporting the facts "Recovery" may be 99% but we now know there are long term effects which as far as I know are yet to be well known so a "recovery" of 99% has little meaning Hospitals are overflowing with COVID patients Doctors and Nurses are exhausted and fed up We have to walk around wearing masks w/ no end in sight I come to the conclusion this is a ___ing serious situation Better to be scared than not - Cheerio
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