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That a developer can be made much more productive with a high performing machine?
When they give me a weak machine, it takes forever to build, it limits the number of development tools I can have open, and it interrupts my train of thought.
Right now I have a laptop with only 16 GB of RAM. It's not nearly enough. 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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And apparently we're being moved to using VMs via thin clients. 
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My last position within this company required us to use VM's via these same laptops.
It was like torture because even the keystrokes had noticeable latency. So typing was extremely frustrating.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Patience. Evidently your company isn't totally brain dead, because you've gone from a VM to a machine with 16GB.
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I've just had my work laptop upgraded.. I've NOW got the 16Gb RAM. 
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I find it amusing that "managers" think it cool to (only) have a laptop on their desk, while the grunts (in some places) have to get by with desk top machines, multiple monitors, etc.
But, when all you do is type memos ...
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I always preferred a desktop, you could not take it to meetings, demonstrating anything meant either deploying it or they came to you (and you made sure there was limited room and they had to stand) and they used to be faster and quieter.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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"Management realize" the two words are a contradiction. All management lives in cloud-cuckoo land. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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The 16 GB of ram, then you add in all of the VPN, Malware, Anti-Virus, and monitoring bloatware that they need to secure the laptop and you have the modern day equivalent of a 486SX running on 640K of memory.
Just my .02
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While they have blazing fast machines to do their bean counting Excel spreadsheets.
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If I'm doing important managey work in Excel, I totally need a new AMD Threadripper with 128 GB of memory loaded with 10 TB of SSD drives.
How else am I going to do Excelly type work, and write clever posts about important managey stuff on Linkedin.... 
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To you and all of the folks that support your position on this subject, I suggest stopping all of your bitching about "Management". If you are that unhappy, quit, start your own company, be your own boss.
Alternatively, bring your own equipment to work and load it up with as much ran and hard drive as you want.
I am a one man company and have been for over 40 years. I have never had a manager, and I never was one.
You need to realize that the "Manager" you are complaining about, probaly has someone over him, telling him what is wrong with him and you.
Bitching about things is easy, and pointless.
Zaphod
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Slow Eddie wrote:
Bitching about things is easy, and pointless.
Yes, but it's also fun...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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That's what SWMBO says. I think she does it just to p**s me off.
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Mr. Eddie, I never said I was "that unhappy," so the premise of your rant is incorrect. I am currently quite pleased with my job.
But my remarks about productivity and its relationship to the power of the machine were completely accurate, in my opinion.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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The only time I complain like you did, is when I am very unhappy. I am sorry if I misunderstood your post.
While I agree that the whole "productivity and relationship to the power of the machine", are in fact accurate.
I feel that my remarks are just as accurate. All you can do is work with what they provide you. then if they complain about your productivity, tell them you are as productive as it is possible to be working with the POS machine yhte have provideed you.
Please don't call me Mr. Eddie. It makes me feel as old as I am.
Zaphod.
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Sorry. I completely agree with you that if one is unhappy, one can always go out on one's own. And I also agree that it is very easy to complain, but difficult to do something about it.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'm blessed (?) with a boss who understands that I, as a developer, am a lot more expensive to him than a brand new machine with ridiculously high specs, and that any wait time saved pays for the machine within a few months if not weeks.
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On a not so unrelated note, why do we need machines with more than 16Gb RAM ... damn bloated software everywhere ...
But I am with you - I was not even a developer and I insisted of having the best laptop available in the pool. I ended up being the "guy with the good laptop" and had to install and test quite everything because I had a good machine.
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Quote: damn bloated software everywhere
^this
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:laughs:
This reminds me of the time I had to visit the dental hospital for some work on the roof of my mouth. Having already been to have the CT scan done on my head, I arrived with my laptop and the disc I'd received from the radiology joint.
After about 3 minutes of their PC chugging on the disc I'd given them, I suggested that we look at the scan on my laptop. I'd done so already and knew it'd be quick to load. I was only carrying a $1000 i7 with 8gb and their computer was still trying to load the disc after we'd manipulated the model on my lappy and got the desired info from it.. 
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16gb is enough for me. on the laptop. On the desktop I have 64gb and I just RDP to that all the time to work.
Also, I do think 16gb is enough if they don't handcuff the machine with the bloatware Virus that is the virus checker (McAfee)
I am fortunate. In my current and hopefully forever home now. I get to decide what gets installed and what doesn't. Of course it is a very small IT shop.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Can I suggest you to look at ram doublers ?
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Been looking over VS2015 icon files for some ideas. There's lots of icons and almost all come with an .ai, .png, .svg, .xaml, and 1 or 2 .bmp file versions.
The icons themselves are about 1 or 2 KB, on disk.
The ".ai" file, Adobe Illustrator, (I assume) was used to design the icons; it averages 370 KB.
The .svg and .xaml contain actual drawing instructions. One would think that would be enough to get Adobe back up; without an .ai file.
So, with over 3.6 GB of image files, Adobe is probably using 3.5 GB for "meta data".
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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