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Slacker007 wrote: force people to buy new computers (with the TPM chip, of course).
TPM has been around for at least a decade. I was recently poking around a Lenovo ThinkPad X300, ca 2008, and it has one.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Okay, I did not know this.
Interesting then why they would make it a requirement for Windows 11 then, and not before. I need to research the "why". there is always a "why".
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If you had a TPM chip and Secure Boot enabled, Windows 10 could use them to provide a supposedly more secure boot experience - the BIOS confirms its security with the TPM chip, etc., creating a secure chain up to the O/S. What has changed in Windows 11 is that this is now mandatory.
I can think of all kinds of reasons for this [insert your favourite conspiracy theory here], but the most worrisome is that it may make help anonymity on the Internet a thing of the past. This will be a boon to Law Enforcement, Banking, etc. - and also to any repressive regimes out there.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: the most worrisome is that it may make help anonymity on the Internet a thing of the past. This will be a boon to Law Enforcement
this was the first thought that came to my mind for the reason "why"
Can everyone say after me: BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU.
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It also makes it damn near impossible to back up a boot drive - image or otherwise. If you make it so secure, no one can use it.... <fill in="" the="" blank="">
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I just did a build a few months ago and it's a no-go for me also. SOAB
The less you need, the more you have.
Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?
JaxCoder.com
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If your build is that new, there's probably a soft TPM option hiding in your BIOS somewhere.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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No if you go into PowerHell, as admin and issue "get-tpm" it displays TPM properties and when I do it the system shows that it's not there.
But I can get a TPM plug-in module from MSI and others, which is currently unavailable EVERYWHERE.
The less you need, the more you have.
Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?
JaxCoder.com
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powershell can't change bios settings.
If it's off in the BIOS as far as windows, or any other OS is concerned, it won't exist.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Yes I agree, I misrepresented myself there.
But I did go to my MOBO manual and there is not an TPM module on the board, but one will be available sometime in the near future hopefully. Out of stock everywhere right now.
The less you need, the more you have.
Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?
JaxCoder.com
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The first article you linked to shows that they will be requiring a Microsoft account to install it. 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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One more reason why friends don't let friends use windows home.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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I suspect the backlash of obsoleting perfectly functional machines will cause Microsoft to remove this requirement. For PC's lacking the chip, they will probably require 5-factor authentication. Phone, face, thumbprint, iris scan, and proof of vaccination. 
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Marc Clifton wrote: proof of vaccination.
For the computer, or for the user? 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Knowing Microsoft, probably both.
"When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid."
Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn.
Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning.
Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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I wonder if it will still support VB6. Oh well, that is 2025's problem.
It's hell getting old.
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that sucks.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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This machine of mine is no slouch. And yet it can't run Windows 10 with Aero Windows 11.
I was wondering whether I'd continue with Windows or just bite the bullet and switch to those pretty coloured thin iMacs. Guess the choice is made.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Oh noooo... don't give up! 
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Interesting that they left Lenovo and Dell off the list of retailers.
I guess I will worry about it when it ships, don't know what the deal will be for VM's. I think the CPU does pass through the TPM, but never turned it on here. Mine is back at 1.2.
Like me, my desktop is becoming obsolete.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I glanced at the requirements - system must have UEFI boot enabled.
NO THANK YOU.
What a royal PITA. I called my laptop vendor and asked why my laptop came without UEFI enabled? "It's not worth the hassle." And I agree.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Do working cats have 9-to-5 lives?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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If they do then they definitely sleep on the job.
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What a way to make a living!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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