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Quote: The Store is wide open now. Developers don't have to use Microsoft's payment tools; they can choose how their app is updated; they can build and host their app any way they want to.
Microsoft is adding some curation and editorial content, but relinquishing almost all control of the apps in the store. It's a total inversion of the app store model, swapping a carefully curated, walled garden for a pure discovery engine.
Even Android apps are coming to the Windows Store. They're available through the Amazon App Store, which is in the Windows Store. Users will be able to use a Microsoft Store to download an Amazon Store to download Google apps onto their Microsoft devices. Figure that out.
From Protocol's article on the Win11 pre-pre-pre-reality announcement paid political advertisement: [^].
All your base are belong to you ?
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Except ... the Amazon App Store is the weakest of the bunch, and almost nothing there is anything like the latest version.
Apparently devs have to pay to be there, and the approvals procedure is long winded and tiresome as well.
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Hi, I suspect I'll exit mortality without ever having owned an android device, and I didn't even know Amazon had an app store ... I stopped using Amazon because I object to its business practices.
How about the Google app store ... any better ?
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The Google app store has the most content of any device related store: Biggest app stores in the world 2020 | Statista[^]
Quality? Variable ... all stores suffer from this: get-rich-quick "developers" rehashing crap for the ad revenue.
Samsung has the Galaxy Store, but it's cupboard is pretty bare - but it's available in China, which Google isn't. for "native Chinese, Huawei also have one (around 55,000 apps, nearly all total rubbish or stolen with the serial numbers quickly filed off).
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Great, but who uses the Windows store?
For mobile devices and OSs that didn't have the concept of download-and-install, an app store is essential. For a PC? IT's irrelevant except in cases where the only place you can get the app is the app store. ie Windows own apps.
I'm also struggling to understand why you'd want, generally, to install Android apps on a PC. It's like what Apple did with running iOS apps on macOS, except totally not. For Apple it's more of a by-product of using the same chip family, plus a longer strategy on convergence of devices, rather than a "let run phone apps on a 27" screen" idea.
I do get running tablet-targeted apps on Windows tablet devices, but then my head starts spinning thinking about the duality of the Surface Duo and Surface Pro. One's Android, one's Windows, both are meant to be siblings, so... which is it?
I think maybe Microsoft needs to start stating what they are not, not what they are. Time to shed some baggage, I think.
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Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Great, but who uses the Windows store?
A problem that's totally an MS own goal for over a decade. If the W8 or W10 app store had included normal win32 apps instead of being part of a failed attempt to get devs to do large scale rewrites into a sandbox resulting in it being a dumpsterfire of crapware from the start it might have gotten a decent amount of traction from existing app developers.
If I could've gotten various existing apps I use upgraded from a version that never gets updates unless I go looking for them (ie generally never) to ones that had updates pushed via the store I probably would've switched my installs over.
And if creating an MS account while doing so would have meant that I'd be able to 1 click reinstall all the software mentioned above on a new machine, I'd've probably done that too.
But that would've required MS management a decade ago to realize that they're not going to be able to wave a magic wand and make 99% of existing win32 applications disappear. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
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modified 25-Jun-21 13:43pm.
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Dan Neely wrote: 1 click reinstall all the software mentioned above on a new machine
What a great idea! I vote for you for MS CEO.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I sometimes wonder what if:
1) MS did not spend US$ 7.6 billion or so to acquire Nokia (and then run it into the ground), had kept hanging in there with WinMobile until it was viable, while doing whatever it took to seed device prototypes, and bribe/subsidize major manufacturers to roll out implementations.
2) MS did not go off the rails with Sinofsky/Metro/WPF, abandon SilverLight ... had instead transformed WinForms with a vector based graphic engine, and the other goodies found in WPF, and somehow integrated insanely great web development facilities.
If I have these thoughts for more than 15 seconds, I find splashing my face with ice-water and screaming helps 
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The whole internal cat fight during Sinofski's time was a debacle. And the whole Nokia thing: That was just odd. And 5 years too late.
And to add to the drama, the whole Wintel thing was a massive albatross for Microsoft. Apple didn't even attempt a mobile strategy using Intel chips, and nor did they try and provide an everything under the sun solution. We all wanted Windows Mobile to be Windows on a phone, and Microsoft doggedly tried to give us that. Turns out that maybe you need to give the consumers what they need, not what they think they want.
Even so: Apple, who have the best shot of anyone of converging phone, tablet and desktop forms, still hasn't found the magic formula. They are tip-toeing towards it, but the speed and care being taken point to it being a really, really tricky issue.
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Chris Maunder
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They also say Bitcoin is unhackable because it's in a blockchain (and as we all know blockchain cannot be hacked).
I guess they say a lot of things 
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And didn't the FBI recently hack-back bitcoin from the Russian based group that hit the oil distribution network?
I'm glad it's hackable - will put more nails in it's impending coffin.
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If you obtain the private key for a crypto wallet, you can move the cryptos wherever you want. People who buy cryptos and leave them in the custody of the exchange are playing with fire. Some exchanges have been hacked (by gaining access to their private key), but many hacks have simply been thefts of clients' cryptos by the owners of the exchange.
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I'm shocked - shocked, I tell you - to find out that an unregulated ponzi-scheme masquerading as a currency has been hijacked by ne're-do-wells taking advantage of the gullible and trusting public. That same public looking for nothing other than an alternative to big banks, the support of the little guy, and promises of instant, unreasonable wealth.
I dunno what the world is coming too...
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Chris Maunder
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Don't forget how environmentally friendly it all is! 
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Hah! I'm not going to get caught out investing in a stupid bubble that's about to burst. I've got all my money in tulips. Apparently, they are rock solid! 
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Ooo! Bad news just breaking ...[^] 
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The barbarians are truly inside the gates.+
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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And here I was looking forward to investing all of my vast sums(*) of retirement money in BobCoin...
(*) Dollars and even more dollars
Software Zen: delete this;
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Why do we call them cloud providers instead of LAN-lords?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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It's just .NET the way it's done?
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Vaporware by any other name...
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That sounds a bit nebulous . . .
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I need a slow clap emoji
cheers
Chris Maunder
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