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Just got a notice for updating the BIOS on my laptop - it's a 17.5MB install. I'm hoping most of that is just the setup folderol? 
TTFN - Kent
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Nope, that's really it. I have read that the latest processors need 32MB so some old motherboards with 16MB of memory can't be used with them.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Unreal - I was expecting some minigames or something, but I guess because all the BIOS are getting almost GUI-fied these days.
TTFN - Kent
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American Megatrends BIOS had a GUI and PS/2 mouse support back in 1996, when a 8 MB RAM PC was still common.
Consider that a car ECU with limited functionalities and a single communication system requires about 2-3 MB of optimized binary and it does not have to support multiple client OS in thousands of possible hardware configurations.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I pride myself that I do not scare easily, but being forced to update BIOS always has me quaking in my boots!  Good luck! ![Java | [Coffee]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Mercifully, it survived. 'swhy I keep suffering with Dell - at least I know people test their installers on it.
OK, this Dell isn't bad. I just miss my Carbon.
TTFN - Kent
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Yes, my favorite make is Dell as well. I have never regretted buying Dell. And I used to buy not only for my family, but for the company where I worked before I retired as well. Not a single failure after a dozen or more purchases over 20 years.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I have a Dell laptop that gets BIOS updates maybe every few months. It'll be 4 years old soon, and it took the first BIOS update a while to show up. But now they appear regularly, and no problem so far.
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Agree. Just shut down a 10 year old server that had been running 24/7. Replaced one hard drive that was still covered under warranty (shipped us a new one overnight). Another one is 5 years old and also running 24/7 with 3 VM's, one a DC. I think we had one desktop fail with bad motherboard, old enough they didn't stock that m'board anymore (over 5 years old).
I am on my 4th Precision workstation going way back.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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They heard you like operating systems, so they put an operating system under your operating system. 
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[^] MyModernMet.com continues to delight me with its range of fascinating stories, as do sites like Atlas Obscura, National Geographic, Quanta, and Aeon, and many of the LiveScience sites.
For me, this ... and, of course, Wikipedia, Quora ... are the web ... at its best ... outside of my technical home-base, CP 
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
modified 2-Jun-20 21:23pm.
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If you liked it, you should have put a ring on it ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I see you're feeling better.
I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.
JaxCoder.com
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I like my phone with a cord please. A wire that binds it to a location.
Always too late with answering because the phone is where I don't expect it. And I make fun of all the idiots that call me instead of mailing; they deserve it.
Owning a telephone is not required by law, and having a lot of fun with the idiots that can't accept the laws and think they can phone me in my bosses' time. If he is paying, the you paying him for disturbing me.
And yes, I will send an invoice if you dare to call me for an "opportunity".
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I suppose that you know that you can get IP phones that look exactly like traditional pre-WW2 phones, with all the cables you desire. You can plug them into any network interface, so that you can move around wherever you are, while keeping your "fixed line" phone active wherever you are.
I guess this depends somewhat on your IP phone model's ability to register remotely with your ISP when you plug it it somewhere, and your ISPs willingness to accept moves. But if your ISP is as flexible as it ought to be, you can move around quite arbitrarily, and your IP phone land line will work everywhere you go, wherever you plug it in.
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Member 7989122 wrote: I suppose that you know that you can get IP phones that look exactly like traditional pre-WW2 phones, with all the cables you desire. You can plug them into any network interface, so that you can move around wherever you are, while keeping your "fixed line" phone active wherever you are.
"Look like"; doesn't work for my old dial phone.
Member 7989122 wrote: I guess this depends somewhat on your IP phone model's ability to register remotely with your ISP when you plug it it somewhere, and your ISPs willingness to accept moves. But if your ISP is as flexible as it ought to be, you can move around quite arbitrarily, and your IP phone land line will work everywhere you go, wherever you plug it in.
My ISP wouldn't recognize that type of phone.
And to repeat what I already said, owning a telephone is not required by law. Doesn't matter to me if the (official) sites require a phone number. I don't need to enter one. If the official service is unavailable without phones, I send a mail and ask for explanation.
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Even the tax man complied. There's no laws saying you need to own a phone. If there is, I expect to receive a phone from the government; but I do not have any reason to buy one, nor to own one. I get along fine without those.
I'm not getting phone calls during work about "job opportunities". If I had those, I had to bill their fakkin' arses for wasting my bosses time without permission. Job opportunities aren't part of the sprint.
So NO, I don't have a phone. But if I would, it would be an old fashioned wheel-dial, that has no idea of IP whatsover.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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You can get VOIP conversion kits / adapters for rotary dial phones, OR build your own[^] Though I suspect in your case you'd prefer the real deal - which still work just fine (until you have to "enter your account number using your phone's keypad"  )
I wonder - do your invoices for wasting your time ever get paid?
BTW I think the reference to "opportunities" was not so much job opportunities, but all those other wonderful opportunities we get to purchase things that will make our lives so much better - or perhaps the opportunity to fix a critical bug in your PC that the nice people from "Microsoft" are phoning you up to warn you of and help you with... 
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DerekT-P wrote: I wonder - do your invoices for wasting your time ever get paid?
I once got a ![Java | [Coffee]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif) 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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It's 2020, I want a phone I can locate by pinging it from my wifi - some kind of finder app i can run from my PC/laptop that will cause the phone to beep until you locate it.
Real programmers use butterflies
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It's 2020. I want a phone that doesn't do that. I want one with a cable, so I don't need an idiot-app to locate it. Not even Wifi in this home.
The kids visiting were forced to talk instead of focussing on their phone. They beat me with mobile internet, and showed me tiktok video's.
I prefer talking.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Several of my friends / coworkers have a perfect answer for this: They have an app on the phone reporting its position to this web service that can tell you where the phone is. The app uses all sorts of tricks to get a correct location: GPS, Glasnost (or whatever it is called), Gallileo, locations of all sorts of GSM/successor towers, ...
The purpose is to tell your position so it can be reported to any agency who wants to track you ... maybe that is not the stated purpose, but just an indirect benefit. Everone can know exactly where you are: Authorities, friends, burglars, and advertising companies who want to direct you towards "relevant" stores.
What's in it for you? That's obvious: This web site told you exactly where to look for your phone!
I am trying to be as polite as I can when rejecting the pressure from my coworkers telling me how just great it is to let this app keept track of your phone (and indirectly: you) at all times. They do not see any problem with it. I do.
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you should have put a ring on it Or you could attach a bell to it. Oh! No! That only works with a cat!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Thats's what mice do, isn'nt it?
At least what I read in some fairy tales, that is what they planned to do.
But the instructions delivered with my mouse had no instructions for how to make it do it.
Maybe we'll do without. I usually use cpp to inspect files, rather than cat.
And, honestly, I don't want my mouse to start squeaking every time I open a file in cpp.
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There are / were some tiny things that you can stick to other objects that give a sound beeper if you whistle. You might use one of it.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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