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OriginalGriff wrote: Now, where's me coat ...
Your coat has been deposited in the puddle, on the road, outside The Lounge. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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A 3 finger salute to snow.[^] 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I prefer the "can you read between lines" three finger salute  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I just came back to my computer expecting to find: an Arduino IDE session, six Excel spreadsheets, various web pages pointing to the local Python web server that was running in a VS Code session alongside the five web pages that I was working on, and all the rest just as I left them... Not unreasonable I think!
What I actually find is that the system has been rebooted, and hidden away in an information log I find that "Windows successfully installed the following update: 2024-04..." at 5/13/2024 02:07:39
Idiots!
And someone asked if MS bashing was allowed - in my mind it is obligatory.
Andy
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At least, it succeeded! 
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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It actually de-hibernates my computer, installs updates and then leaves it running just to waste electricity and annoy me ...
Or worse, de-hibernates my computer, tries to shut down to install updates but finds a app - normally an MS app - that won't close so it leaves it running having not updated until I get up in the morning 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: ... de-hibernates my computer, installs updates and then leaves it running ...
Exactly!
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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Yup, so annoying. If it's hibernated, it should stay that way until I wake it up.
I've even shutdown completely and had it "wake up". How I don't know.
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Well it's not like it doesn't give you warnings days ahead of time. Windows always warns me before it does something like that.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Sometimes. I've had this happen more times than I can say and sometimes there's a warning, sometimes not.
I often have stuff gnarly stuff open that I'm working on for days. A debug session running, docs I'm trying to update, a couple of remote sessions, and VSCode open in the middle of a horrible refactoring session. Sometimes you just can't break up tasks into smaller tasks because of how they all relate to each other so I just barrel through with the whole thing.
Usually Windows threatens to reboot - to which I say "oh no you don't". And sometimes Windows just...reboots.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I've been avoiding Windows client OSes (11/10/8.x/7/go back as far as you want) and stick with Windows Server just for that purpose. After all, a server OS should never reboot on its own, no matter the circumstances.
Well, Microsoft has proven me wrong on more than one occasion. I've posted about it here in the lounge. Then some people had the audacity of blaming me for giving the okay to install updates but then let it wait for my approval for the actual reboot. I've always done this in prior decades. At some point that behavior, even on server OSes, has changed.
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(obviously, it should not do that)
but, you should be able to reset your environment if something bad happens.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I have been there. I share your pain.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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AndyChisholm wrote: Arduino IDE session
Have you considered Platform IO in the alternative? It runs in VS Code so you get sweet sweet intellisense, and the project management is just so much better.
Some of my IoT code - like my graphics library - won't even compile in the Arduino IDE without digging around in the bowels of its application toolchain configuration to tweak settings. It's a mess.
I mean, I don't judge you for what you decide to use in any case, but from experience I can say that Platform IO increased my productivity by a huge amount and made my projects cleaner and easier for other people to check out from github. With Arduino IDE dependent libs must be installed manually, and are shared between all projects, making GitHub use a mess.
I still use Arduino IDE occasionally, because the latest Arduino framework bits come out for it before Platform IO, and it's still okay for really quick and dirty tests but it's a toy.
Anyway, I'm only posting this in case you hadn't heard of it. There's a trick to installing it on windows:
Install python first, making sure to add it to your PATH. Then, log out of windows or reboot, and finally install Platform IO IDE extension in VS Code. Do it in that order. Also, the first time you make a project, it has to download the toolchain so it will take quite a bit of time, but it's a one time thing.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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My tactic was to take the shell off and make them a little lighter and quicker. But instead they became more sluggish.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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And sluggardly as well, no doubt.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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honey the codewitch wrote: take the shell off and make them a little lighter and quicker.
A snail without a shell is like a horse without a jockey.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Or a fish without a bicycle.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Or a woman without a man... 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I converted my racing snail in a truck, now it's an es-cargo-t.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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You do realize that slugs are just snails after the divorce?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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