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We're slowly moving in that direction. So far it has gone from "On your person" to "visible on your person". So no more keeping it in a wallet. I currently have mine on a belt clip and will tuck it into my pants pocket when I sit down, but some people are pushing for lanyards only. Fortunately upper management isn't keen on that for themselves, so for now the idea is dead on arrival.
The rational is security. We tend to be a friendly bunch holding doors and elevators for people that the security folks realized just how easy it was to get into secured areas.
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RJOberg wrote: So far it has gone from "On your person" to "visible on your person".
Doesn't mean you have to wear a gallow. Just superglue the badge to your arse, or the underside of your shoes.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Just superglue the badge to your arse
Well, it has to be visible so I wouldn't be able to wear pants or at least not ones with a seat. On the flip side, it would allow me to quickly express my thoughts about some projects.
Decisions, decisions.
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RJOberg wrote: security folks realized just how easy it was to get into secured areas.
We do the same and it should piss off the security people but doesn't.
Lunch time when 6000 people try and get through the turnstiles at the same time security just open the gates and lets the flood out. Security is a joke, an irritating joke.
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When I was at the main office, I wore it (although belly badges were OK, too) - but I needed it to get into various places and the office, itself.
Here, I have a key - and I've not worn the thing since I've gotten here, although it's been asked to the bulk herd.
Partly, though - I'm rather easy to recognize and maybe no one thinks twice about "who's that?".
I say - tell them: "stop this ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing around - I'm ready for my bar-code tattoo, whereupon you drop your pants . . ."
Well - it's a thought.
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Clipped to a pocket, it stays right-side-out. On a lanyard, it's often backwards.
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Just don't accidentally hang yourself. Anything around your neck like that is dangerous, IMHO. 
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They are supplying the lanyards, right? And they're breakaway lanyards right?
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I got famous in my last company for being the guy refusing to wear the badge.
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Just whack'em over the head with a wooden shoe, that helps 
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Unbeknownst to you, but knownst to those of us watching, there's a tiny motor in the badge. If you fail to perform to *cough* expectations *cough*, the motor is turned on via a WiFi message from HR. The lanyard shortens, and becomes a garrote.
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FWIW the one thing I find collared shirts are good for is keeping the lanyard off my neck.
(Doesn't change my being happy to've spent the last 2 years working at a company that doesn't do badges and lets us wear tshirts instead of in PHB land at my prior job.)
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The test costs $550.
These as*holes make millions off the government and DoD contractors. It would cost the government significantly less if they would set up their own certification system.
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Do my eyes deceive me? Are you complaining about a capitalist company making a huge profit?*
Are you allowed to do that in Texas? 
* Besides, the company is probably owned by a congressman, through a relative. So that's almost compulsory, and probably The American Way.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Besides, the company is probably owned by a congressman, through a relative. So that's almost compulsory, and probably The American Italian Way.
FTFY
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I think he's more complaining at how it's forced on the employees. Although 550 is cheap for a certification. It's usually way higher.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Besides, the company is probably owned by a congressman, through a relative. So that's almost compulsory, and probably The American Way.
Either that or the owner made a huge donation early on in the politician's career. Or a former worker who figured out a way to milk the system after departing.
Tell the government you will do all of the leg work of testing, sorting, filing, etc. so they don't have to create it as a permanent budget item. That looks good on the balance sheets. Then charge them ten or twenty times what it actually costs to do. Bonus points if you can subcontract the work out to someone else and just collect the profit.
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I'm complaining that the feds agreed to pay exorbitant amounts of money - over and over again. I'm pointing out that the feds could save a sh*t-ton of money by creating their own certification system.
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Do you get to expense it? Mandatory shouldn't come out of your pocket.
Is that the list price of the test? Maybe the actual cost will be less if they are buying in bulk.
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Yeah - contractor company pays it.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: These as*holes make millions off the government and DoD contractors
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Yeah, but then you would be able to work as security guard at DoD or ask for db_owner permissions.
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reminds me of PMP, (aced it after 1 day of study, laughed at idiots that studied for weeks and [multi-]failed) - it's common sense.
every 2 years you are expected to re-certify, no need to do the test but you have to fill in nonsense about your projects or other crap you've done (and what about the NDA's?). Not hard work but still a hassle, and of course the most important part is they hit you for a renewal fee.
And what is it really: it's just paying a bunch of wankers good money to put your name on a list on a website.
screw that, anyway I got the fancy paper cert, so I showed that back in the days of applying for jobs, and people were happy oooooh, nice. The facts: most hirers and job agents* are too lazy to do the lookup to see if you're current - in fact many didn't even know that existed - again because once again they were too lazy to find out.
*job agents - yeah, those idiots can screw their fancy titles too, a spade is an ing spade... and most are dumber than shovels anyway.
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Ditto with my CISSP. If you've worked in the field for long enough to even be *allowed* to take the test, you don't need to study.
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