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Lopatir wrote: what you do
Write kernel code for windows and linux. The most important part of this is the design, the architecture, because if that is wrong the product will never fly.
The details, the syntax, I often have to look up, because I keep forgetting it.
It is usually because my head gets so deep into complex relational behaviour between components that it just can't hold the bits and pieces for any longer than it needs to.
Lopatir wrote: you might get there one day
Been doing it for 20 years and get paid very nicely for doing so thankyou! 
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I usually introduce myself as a geek. When talking to non geeks. In a company of other geeks I say I do development. I try to leave it at that.
Some days I am a strict coder. Some days I am an architect. Some days I am the customer. Most days I am just keep politics from ruining mine and my teams lives.
As someone else said. I don't really fit into the current buzzword. I also don't want to be labeled by a buzzword. I can do design work, I can meet with the customer and come up with an overriding solution. I can be put in a corner and given specs and crank out code.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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Geeks are circus performers.
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I also call myself software engineer, although, if blundering hacks like us would be held up to the standards of civil engineering, we would all be in jail.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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True.
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"Jim, for one million dollars, what is your name!"
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eh... I'm whatever the job description says.
Just tell me the technologies used and the pay scale.
Call me whatever you like, just don't call me late for dinner.
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Pualee wrote: Call me whatever you like, just don't call me late for dinner.
That's what Dwight (Robert De Niro) said from the movie This Boys Life.
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Code Monkey?
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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Everyone at the current gig is called a "software engineer". I don't really care much for titles - I just enjoy getting paid to play with computers all day.
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It wasnt a 'title' question, but a 'what sort of person are you' question.
Either a detail obsessed bit stuffer, ie, programmer, or someone with the wider big view, the designer (which is what I do and regularly make a mess of live coding tests because I use calc to verify all my bitwise logic and google to look up the syntax of the stuff I, regularly, forget. 
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Munchies_Matt wrote: 'what sort of person are you'
Nice
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Nice
I think we should vote on that. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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It's the holes in the roles that I play that make, or break, my day.
«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)
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I tend to call a lot of them keyboard smashers.
Pound keys, till something happens. 
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Software Engineerings tell you what to do, Programmers need somebody who tells them what to do and sometimes how to do it. 
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I have 58 reasons to code - to bitcoin a phrase
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After graduation I joined an aerospace engineering firm on their graduate training programme. A 2 year period of courses, working in various departments in the company, and honing my software skills. My mentor told me on day 1 "you think you're a good programmer, which you probably are, but you're not an engineer, we're going to train you for that", I thought "what does he know?"
I learned so much. Programming is actually a much smaller part of software engineering. It's about the application of rigorous standards and processes to whatever you do, while applying a formal set of constraints. It's the ability to flow down system requirements to individual testable functionality, and tracing that all the way through to final acceptance.
I spent 3 years in the systems engineering department. This was a collection of individuals with various specialisations; mathematicians modelling scenarios, and developing complex algorithms, for example. I worked on bid prep and requirements gathering and analysis. Meeting stakeholders and identifying their user requirements, then translating these to system and functional requirements, to be flowed down to software engineers, while also creating the associated test framework so that each requirement could be tested, and the whole thing formulate a system acceptance process. Much of my time was spent using software like DOORS. Subsystem interfaces and dependancies were probably the most challenging part (software eng. can be thought of, in it's purest form, as developing a series of interfaces).
As I became more senior, I became a graduate mentor, for what was now a 4 year graduate training programme, leading to CEng. I remember using the quote my mentor used above for each of my graduates, and guessed they thought exactly the same as me when I was a graduate.
I've met many developers who think they're engineers, and they just hack some code and knock up a bit of documentation (slight exaggeration there). Process never enters their mind, and that's he most important part of engineering.
Engineering in the UK is not really recognised as one of the professions, which is bizarre. It's fixed up with technician, or mechanic. In the US, I believe you have to be registered. I worked for some time with a German firm, and there, they are considered a proper profession. My father's best friend was a successful architect, and said that in many countries, engineers are revered more than architects.
In Germany, if you are introduced to somebody as an engineer, they'll want to introduce you to their daughter/son; in the UK, they'll want to introduce you to their broken washing machine
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Yes, that is exactly how I see it too.
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I think I'm a software engineer, because that gets me cheaper car insurance than programmer.
Have I mentioned how car insurance is a giant scam yet...?
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No, but go ahead, sounds interesting.
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UK.
It's required by law, but not regulated by it. It discriminates based on gender, marital status, age, and other non-protected characteristics like profession. The formulas determining how much you pay are completely opaque and likely arbitrary, with no limits as to maximums as far as I can tell. If you're a single male who learns to drive in his mid 20's, (hi), with no parents whose car upon which to take out a shared policy, you're going to be paying what is likely 6-8 times the cost of the car for your first year's insurance, and the second year isn't much better.
If you go for several years without making an insurance claim, you pay less for insurance the next year, which disincentivises using your insurance, meaning if you get in a bump with someone, it's usually better to privately sort the repair costs, COMPLETELY sidestepping the legal protection and ease of life insurance is meant to provide you.
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I describe myself as a computer engineer.
Initially I did so because my college degree was in computer engineering (Wright State University[^], class of '84). We were the bastard step-child of the computer science and electrical engineering programs, who put us through their hardest classes in the hopes we'd give up and go away. For a few like myself, it didn't work.
Now I use the term because most of my work is in process control software, which uses one or more computers to automate or control industrial equipment. I do that via programming (writing software) and software engineering (programming according to a set of guiding principles and best practices), which makes me both a programmer and a software engineer.
Software Zen: delete this;
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