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He asks the assistant "Do you have 'European Vespidae Acoustics Volume 2'? I believe it was released this week."
"Certainly," replies the assistant. "Would you like to listen before you buy it?"
"That would be wonderful," says the expert, and puts on a pair of headphones.
He listens for a few moments and says to the assistant, "I'm terribly sorry, but I am the world's leading expert on European wasps and this is not accurate at all. I don't recognize any of those sounds. Are you sure this is the correct recording?"
The assistant checks the turntable, and replies that it is indeed European Vespidae Acoustics Volume 2. The assistant apologizes and lifts the needle onto the next track.
Again the expert listens for a few moments and then says to the assistant, "No, this just can't be right! I've been an expert in this field for 43 years and I still don't recognize any of these sounds."
The assistant apologizes again and lifts the needle to the next track.
The expert throws off the headphones as soon as it starts playing and is fuming with rage.
"This is outrageous false advertising! I am the world's leading expert on European wasps and no European wasp has ever made a sound like the ones on this record!"
The manager of the shop overhears the commotion and walks over.
"What seems to be the problem, sir?"
"This is an outrage! I am the world's leading expert on European wasps. Nobody knows more about them than I do. There is no way in hell that the sounds on that record were made by European wasps!"
The manager glances down and notices the problem instantly.
"I'm terribly sorry, sir. It appears we've been playing you the bee side."
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*groan*
The most expensive tool is a cheap tool. Gareth Branwyn
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Mike Hankey wrote: *groan*
Seconded! I wonder how many youngins know what the B-side even is?
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And even of those that older records ran at 78rpm?
The most expensive tool is a cheap tool. Gareth Branwyn
JaxCoder.com
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I'm starting a new job on Monday, and I posed some questions regarding the unit testing stuff they do, and asked this question:
"Which testing framework are we using - mstest, nunit, xunit?"
Response (from one of the testers) - "I'm not sure".
How can that possibly be the case? Should I be worried?
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I would say that means something like: We don't do unit tests.
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They do automated UI testing with Selenium, but they still have to use a testing framework to "make it go".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Testing can be done in several ways, see: Slant search: testing[^]
I guess unit testing is more a developer / dev-ops thing.
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Regardless of whether or not unit testing is done, you still need some sort of testing framework (for selenium), right?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I played around with selenium with mstest. Haven't tried it with nunit yet.
FWIW, that question was 9 years old... Would it. and the answers it garnered, still be relevant?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Can't tell, as I don't have any experience with Selenium, but I get the impression that unit testing is not needed per se ...
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The tester "tests"; there's nothing to imply that they "program the tests". Integration testing. Acceptance testing.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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But they do, in fact write their own tests (from what I've been told).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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that's the devs job to write the tests the tester just runs them lol while watching cat videos
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Testing in general
I can't hear it anymore, this statement from developers: I implemented xyz tests.
But if I only do the first user actions, not even the slightest thing works.
Developers: Get your finger out of the ass and deliver working software!
Btw: I'm counting me as a developer 
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It is my understanding that the crypto market is not regulated....at all, and because of this, volatility and dangers are to be expected.
So, when I read about a $45 billion crypto crash, this does not surprise me at all.
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Sure, but who caused a $45 BILLION bubble?
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Or the Social Security Ponzi?
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Ohhhh... don't get me started...
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The lie that they would / could peg it to "the dollar" ... or one dollar ... or some dollar ... or something.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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That's what money market funds do. But they're almost always run conservatively, whereas many stablecoins are run by people who aren't professional investors and are at far greater risk of blowing up--if they're not outright frauds.
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