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I conclude you infer the govt in this instance... Or, does that now make it "the two entities..."? 
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I mean this[^] maker of low quality cars.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I have owned several Audi (and VW) vehicles over the years and have found them solid, reliable and well made. To what do you owe your poor view of them?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Two automatic (!) transmissions that died at about 35000km and 20000km, the second one about one month after the warranty ended. The only thing Audi had to say to that: "Why don't you buy a new one?"
Don't think so. Ever.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Whoa man, that's a scary thought and I was contemplating buying an Audi only to be held back by my own common sense while considering the maintenance and running costs (especially down here, it's insane).
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For you everything can be related to MS 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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You need a reference when you want to measure something.
My unit for unacceptability is 1.0 Mickeysoft.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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What is your profession?
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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What would you like me to be? A brainwashed fanboi?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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You substantiated my suspicions. You're trolling.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Said the troll. Have we not had all that before several times? This leads exactly nowhere.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Said the troll
Nope. I asked a valid question. You responded with unrelated Microsoft hate spewing.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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No. Mickeysoft. I wrote Mickeysoft?
Why does that upset you so much? Tell me how disliking a clumsy greedy company constitutes trollin you? Is Mickeysoft your name? Or your religion?
No, my friend, if anyone here is a troll, then it's you. You provoke, if that does not work you start calling names and if that still does not work, well let's try to turn the tables and accuse everyone else to be a troll.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: You provoke, if that does not work you start calling names and if that still does not work, well let's try to turn the tables and accuse everyone else to be a troll.
Straight out of the trolling playbook. When someone accuses you of trolling you are to respond with that quote. Well done. Troll level expert achieved. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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As I said, this leads exactly nowhere. Why don't you go climb a tree?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I suggest you to ask for professinal help, your doctor should be able to help for a first step.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Speaking from experience?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Yes
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Gute Besserung.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Okay okay okay
Just a little pinprick
There'll be no more, ahhhhhhh
But you may feel a little sick...
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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There are a number of people like that. Just a couple of threads above from here, someone's bashing Windows 10. The reason? After a lot of fluff, it was be deduced to the fact that their laptop is overheating.
Now, what exactly Windows 10 has to do with this is way beyond me. But for some people, it is. 
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modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Now, of a laptop overheating whilst using Win10 and it being related to paying car reg for your Audi at the DMV...YUP!
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Yeehaw!
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Some questions inspired by the earlier "I hate debugging" thread:
Supposing there was a scale from 1 to 10 which ran roughly as follows:
1) Get the damned job done anyway you can. Best practices? Never heard of 'em!
2) Quick and dirty's always done it for me, I try to be as tidy as I can be but I'm not going to fuss about high faluting concepts when my customer just needs a website.
3) I'll brush it up a bit when I'm finished.
4) I try to stick to some kind of decent design pattern but I'm not going to lose any sleep if I violate it here and there.
5) As long as things are done reasonably, that's cool. Yeah, I break a few rules here and there but hey y'know, you've got to be pragmatic.
6) I spend time upfront on design because good design leads to good code but I'm not going to get too obsessed with what the rest of the world does or doesn't deem to be best practice this week.
7) Best practices are worth aspiring to. I don't always use them but I do try hard to stick to the main ones.
8) Rules aren't carved in stone but there needs to be a damned good justification for deviation.
9) OMG! That line isn't covered by a unit test - that makes it LEGACY CODE! And look at that! A singleton! It's a goddamn anti-pattern! I don't feel too well ..
10) The Law of Demeter has been broken and the crops will fail if I don't rewrite the whole damned thing from scratch.
Now, obviously this is a rather arbitrary (and slightly flippant) scale but assuming a general spectrum running from Q&D via pragmatism to extreme perfectionism:
a) Where would you place yourself on the spectrum?
b) Where do you think that you should be on the spectrum?
c) What do you think are acceptable points on the spectrum for others to occupy?
d) Does your position vary according to what you're working on (e.g. is your attitude to a web-site different to your attitude to designing a database? If you write both low and high level code, does your approach change?)
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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