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I guess the mouse is going to need a dongle...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Looks like there is a company called 'The Internet', headquartered in Elbonia 
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You are discriminating against the internet.
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You have to be discriminating with the internet - there is soooooo much rubbish out there! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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So are you saying your a racist? 
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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Of course I love Racing!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Xamarin seems soooooo great. I love the C# language and Forms is getting UWP support. My biggest problem is that price tag. I am starting a small team (currently <10 people, don't plan on going above 10) that does contract / freelance mobile app development for may types of people including:
- People who have just any app idea
- Apps to be used internally by businesses
- People who need a mobile game
- etc.
but even $999/developer/platform/year seems to high  . I mean I need 2 iOS and 2 Android, which totals to about $4000 a year. I know that may not be much, but for a younger person (I'm only 17 atm) I don't think I get manage that till at least a few years.
For now, I fine just going with the plain SDK's. I can do Android and Windows, and some backend work. And my other team can cover iOS, more Android, and more backend but Xamarin seems so nice. Code reuse would be amazing.
What do y'all think. Is Xamarin a good investment? Is it worth that price?
i cri evry tiem
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James_Parsons wrote: Is Xamarin a good investment? Is it worth that price?
May I suggest that you try Xamarin's tools (trial versions), study the traffic on their support forums, look for evidence the tools available now produce good results (actual products in the market now with good "reviews"), and ignore what you hear about "... in the future ..." in carefully planned marketing campaigns designed to make devs drool
to your success, Bill
p.s. "write once run anywhere" is a secret mantra that demons use to gain power over you
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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BillWoodruff wrote: p.s. "write once run anywhere" is a secret mantra that demons use to gain power over you
Amen...they used to just call it 'cross platform'...they were saying that 20 years ago.
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James_Parsons wrote: I'm only 17 atm
James, if you're a student (and I assume you are), you can get the Pro version of Xamarin for free[^]! 
/ravi
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I tried once, and they refused to give it to me because I am not enrolled in a "diploma granting program". Plus, it would only be good for a few more months
i cri evry tiem
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I have used Xamarin to develop production apps for the enterprise (see my Xamarin articles on here listed against my profile). I found it an excellent technology for developing cross-platform enterprise apps. The company I was working at were a large UK IT supplier who could easily afford the price tag of multiple Xamarin licences (we even had one just for the build server so we could build the app).
There is a free trial version that you can download to evaluate it. I would suggest you use this as you get most of the functionality of the full version. The integration with Visual Studio is excellent and the online examples are great too.
You'll need to consider what you want to achieve, what your business objectives are, what your customers want and then decide if Xamarin is worth the cost of the licence(s).
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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If you're willing to do cross-compilation (work on one O/S while compiling for another), look into Microsoft's Visual Studio 2015. IIRC, it coms with (some version) of Xamarin.
The Community Edition is free for non-commercial use and small commercial teams at non-Enterprise companies (I forget the exact licensing terms).
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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For the last 5 years, I have had the joy, the sheer JOY of working with SVN. Now, before you GIT wankers get going, I used to work with Visual Source Safe, so now you understand my joy.
Today, I am trying to go back through the history of VSS to recreate a build from April 2010.
After I'm done "shaving" I am going to splash my bleeding face with alcohol.
I am doing this so that another engineer can avoid getting another serving of BBQ Penguin in South Africa. Apparently, it does not agree with him.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I know South Africa has Penguins (I have seen 'em) just doesnt seem right though! I don't know if I would eat one they seem quite small & scrawny...
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charlieg wrote: the history of VSS to recreate a build from April 2010.
When I looked at VSS for a project I inherited and looked at their tools for viewing history, I decided that VSS didn't actually have history. Not in any way that made sense to me nor in a way that didn't take ages to look up the commit log (ok, granted, this was over a VPN, but still...)
So, I feel your pain.
Marc
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I actually like Subversion...it's easy to use.
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I like subversion as well. It started as an experiment at my local contract and escaped the lab. Bugzilla did the same thing - escape the lab - and I so want to kill it off (super clunky).
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I'm about curious about SVN does the name hint at Subversion, many different smaller versions or the word subversiv? Because my mind goes to subversive, subterfuge and generally the darker spectrum of those words when I hear the name subversion rather than just svn.
And git... reminds me of a British person insulting someone. Can't we get a repository with a name that can't be misinterpreted? I'm out of the name spawning committee as the first name that pops up in my mind would have been suppository...
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Member 11683251 wrote: Can't we get a repository with a name that can't be misinterpreted?
Who says it's a misinterpretation? Sounds just about right for the evil spreading, life denying, mind warping ******s to me!
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OK Portsmouth has a reputation for being a bit thick. I can't deny it after reading the comments on this story[^]. Seriously read the article and then the comments (starting from the bottom).
Words fail me as they are all serious comments.
p.s. I go under the name The Libertine on this site.
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Real enough, and not confined to Portsmouth. I love the one about the Leap Year, and the shower.
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That comment about water is right. 
You know fish pee in water..... Among other things! 
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You mean they don't have lavatories? 
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