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I don't believe Apprentice job is considered a "real job". Just your firm is smart enough to use you for code instead of making you learn the 10 different ways to make coffee.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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It isn't, but the time you spend working is widely considered work experience, if it was work.
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You look after Tamagocis?
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I don't know about you, but I personally prefer to look after girls 
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RFTM -
Section 17.II.b(ii): Geeks are forbidden from having a relationship with another living thing. Even Facebook 'friends' are pushing it.
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Can't get the staff!
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I was told cats were OK !!!!!  I've been getting it wrong all these years 
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Define relationship.
And remember, it's cats we're talking about.
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To have obtained a VET diploma as a Software Developer did you have to take math,science,programming,language arts, social studies, psychology and other subjects in order to obtain the diploma?
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It's all depending on the state, but in my case it contained the following fields:
- OS Basics (Linux & Windows)
- Batch programming
- Structured programming (in C)
- Object Oriented Programming (C# [WinForms and ASP.Net], Java)
- English
- Maths
- General Education (includes politics, laws)
- Boolean Algebrae
- Assembler (8 Bit AVR)
- Project management basics
The ones mentioned above were all the same for every student, plus I got me some individual skills at work:
- Hardware Simulation over virtual COM ports
- C++ on Qt
- Creation of end user trainings, 3rd level support
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Marco Bertschi wrote: - Batch programming
Eh?! What?
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@echo off
echo Teh Console.
Yeah, script programming would be a better description.
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Quote: Yeah, script programming would be a better description
... maybe, but "batch programming" gets you brownie points with this oldie 
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Is it almost the same as getting a Bachelors of Science in Computer Science or a Bachelors of Science in Software Engineering?
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No, but it certifies you as Software Developer. It's an entry level degree, and most of the Bachelors in CS or SE in Switzerland started with a VET diploma, because they can work part-time as developers during their Bachelor studies.
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That sounds nice there are certificates for those fields where I go and I find it annoying for the fact anyone who gets those never find a job. :/ Sadly we must either find an internship while going to school or work another type of job. Congratulations though on getting it! 
I will be finishing my degree soon and well I already develop many different programs. What about you have you developed anything neat or nifty to where you could sell it on your own?
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Ray Raymos wrote: What about you have you developed anything neat or nifty to where you could sell it on your own?
No, but I'm currently working on a Syslog implementation on .Net which I will publish on CP once it is finished.
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You restore the health of ill Tamagotchies?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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No, Leslie[^] takes care of them. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Congratulations! 
Does it happened today? In that case we share the date...only mine is 20 years old today... 
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Nah, it's been a while now - Got the diploma last week.
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Yes, you are right. NVQs have different levels, where in the Swiss system we have different names for our "levels, e.g.
- Level 1 : certificate
- Level 2 : diploma
- Level 3 : master diploma [badly translated]
The requirements are defined by the job you learn, and therefore may differ from job to job.
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