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Ok, actually yesterday, but that's not important...
Got a new laptop... Lenovo Y50 with an i7... Seems like a nice rig so far, but it's also my first direct experience with Windows 8.1 (All of my other machines either run Win7, Ubuntu, or Android).
Now, I don't mind the start screen... I'm sure I'll get sick of it soon, but so far I haven't tried doing any serious work on that machine (It's mostly for vacations and LAN parties)... So I can tolerate it for now. It would be utterly useless if it was a desktop, but it's a laptop with a touch screen, so it has a slight purpose.
What REALLY bugs me, though... I'm in the middle of a game, putting the GPU through its paces, and an overlay comes up saying my machine has downloaded updates and will restart in 15 minutes. The only options I'm presented with are "Restart Now" and "Close"... So I hit Close and assume I can just reboot later...
Ten minutes later... There's that overlay again... 5 minutes left! Wait, I can't postpone it? This is when having the nearest hammer more than 15 feet away was fortunate.
So yeah... Windows 8.1... You'll restart when we TELL you to restart!
(I found you can manually create a specific registry key to disable this behavior... Starting the next time you reboot... So hopefully it won't happen again, or I might have to perform unlicensed surgery on the OS)
I'm sure I'll find more things I hate about it soon enough... But that's enough for one post.
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Is it compatible with Win7?
Geek code v 3.12
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Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I'm not convinced Win8.1 is compatible with anything.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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The PC I was thinking 
Geek code v 3.12
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Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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No, no - I'm pretty sure Win8.1 isn't compatible with PCs... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I thought so! 
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Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Ian Shlasko wrote: Windows 8.1
I'm sorry.
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When this comes up you can go to services and turn off the Windows Update service to stop it. Keeps counting down but doesn't do anything when it hits zero.
It turns itself back on an hour or so later but that's another matter.
As somebody who has been defending Windows 8 since it came out as not that bad, really, this is the one feature that I cannot defend!
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Disable the Windows Update and BITS (background intelligent transfer) services and reboot.
As well - you can have Windows 8.1 boot up to the desktop instead of the "win playstation side". I've been running it all year - and I can't remember the last time I was on the "play side".
As an added bonus, having the Windows updates service disabled (and BITS), you save yourself the headache of MS patches totally trashing your machine as per what's been going on lately. In my experience, it's better to patch a few days after the patch went out.... and doing so manually.
Google on having Windows 8.1 boot to desktop:
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=CGOQVL_RNovB8gfdjoCoBQ&gws_rd=ssl#q=boot+window+8.1+to+desktop[^]
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Hold on man 10s' a commin.
And we can complain anew then too.
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Yep, waiting for that one...
Hopefully Win10 will be like Win7...
Vista reworked everything to add new capabilities and stability, but had a horrible GUI... Win7 fixed it.
8.0 reworked everything to add new capabilities and stability (?), but had a horrible GUI... Win8.1 tried to fix it, but failed miserably... Maybe Win10 will fix it properly.
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Ian Shlasko wrote: Hopefully Win10 will be like Win7...
Vista reworked everything to add new capabilities and stability, but had a horrible GUI... Win7 fixed it.
This seems to be Microsoft's MO, these days.
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No Start button. 'nuff said.
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I think you mix something up.
a) Windows 8.1 has a start button (only the first Windows 8 release was missing one -- at least by default)
b) The only ones complaining about a missing start buttons are usually fanboys of X or haters of MS / Windows
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c) Those of us who haven't found the option to reinstate the Start button yet.
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The start button is available (and instated) from the beginning in Windows 8.1. Therefore I assume you are talking about something different (either OS or functionality).
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Actually, I have two start buttons... One that opens the metro screen, and one (Third-party, pre-installed by Lenovo) that opens up an ugly-looking imitation of the Win7 start menu.
8.0 was missing the button... 8.1 put it back.
I don't use either of them... I just hit the windows key on the keyboard (Which opens the metro one), and type a few letters of what I want... Just like I do in Win7.
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I hated W8.1 for about the first two weeks. After finding all settings to make it looks like W7 (and also some behavior like W7) I would never go back to W7.
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Bruno Sprecher wrote: After finding all settings to make it looks like W7 (and also some behavior like W7) I would never go back to W7.
Uh, it sounds like you have. What about making W8.1 look and behave like W7 still gives it an advantage over W7?
Marc
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Bruno Sprecher wrote: My outdated Borland c++ 6.0 environment does work more reliable on W8.1 than with W7.
Now that's the first good reason I've heard!
Marc
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Thank you for your compassion 
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Ian Shlasko wrote: my machine has downloaded updates and will restart in 15 minutes
We've had Windows 8 and 8.1 for about a year now (I honestly don't remember when we bought the laptop; it was when the last one died). I see notifications saying updates have been installed and Windows will restart the next DAY, but never in 15 minutes...
I've always been able to stop what I was doing and complete a clean restart.
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You must have fixed it already... A one day warning is acceptable... A 15-minute warning is not.
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We didn't change anything; it was preconfigured that way. It is an ASUS, so before they had that set up...
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