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Manfred R. Bihy wrote: is a process that takes 5+ years as you have to work
If you live in an area that has lots of trees you can call the companies that cut down trees and they often will give you the mulch for free. I did that years ago and it only takes 2-3 years before you have good soil.
If you mix in manure you can get good soil in a matter of months actually.
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RyanDev wrote: If you mix in manure you can get good soil in a matter of months actually
You are talking sh*t.
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RyanDev wrote: If you mix in manure you can get good soil in a matter of months actually.
No, believe me if you start with no topsoil left you will not get it back that quickly. It does take a lot of time and mulch will not really help that much as it take too long to break down. It will help in aerating the soil though and thus help in the process.
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Manfred R. Bihy wrote: No, believe me if you start with no topsoil left you will not get it back that quickly.
I've done it. It works.
Here's a link that might interest you about sheet mulching: http://permaculturenews.org/2012/07/20/gorgeous-gardens-from-garbage-how-to-build-a-sheet-mulch/[^]
Quote: Note: It is best to let a sheet mulch sit at least a few weeks before you plant it or even a winter season if you can. Sheet mulch will be a lot more productive in the second and third year than in the first.
There's a whole movie about a guy who did this, http://www.backtoedenfilm.com/[^]
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RyanDev wrote: I've done it. It works.
Well good for you. It wouldn't have worked for us. The ground was so hard I ruined a spade in my first attempt at digging the hole for our cistern. I used a pick axe then and still had a hard time making any progress. That was some nasty stuff I tell you.
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Manfred R. Bihy wrote: It wouldn't have worked for us.
OK. 
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Yeah, I know I could have sold it, but with the pressure of work, needing to get rid of it, vacation coming up, and all that, just didn't have the opportunity to do so.
We were going to sling it in a gully, well, an old river bed, got to be 50 ft wide and 10 deep, that's on our land, but the neighbours bamboo had so infected the soil, that's why I was getting rid of it, I didn't want to dump it there, lest the bamboo regrow. It really is a bastard, bamboo. When the stuff takes hold its a sod to get rid of, hence scraping off the top 5 inches of part of our garden.
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Was the neighbor who bamboo bombed your garden the one who you gave the soil to; or did you drop a bamboo bomb of your own on some chump?
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--Zachris Topelius
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Different neighbour and he was warned, and puled the roots out by hand, deeming it much cheaper than buying top soil. 
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You haven't concreted your garden, have you?
There goes the ozone layer...
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Mark_Wallace wrote: You haven't concreted
That's one buzzword I will try to use next meeting.
"I've concreted my new implementation".
I'd rather be phishing!
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Luckily, I won't be at that meeting.
So you might not get a slap.
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Putting in a patio. 5 by 8.5 meters. Beside the house. The thing is, the French seem to over do things, and the guy is putting in foundations you cold build a friggin house on! Hence the large volume of soil. (As well as having scraped the top 5 inches off part of the garden to get rid of bamboo roots that have invaded from a neighbours garden).
All in all, it was a massive amount of soil. God knows what putting in a swimming pool produces! 
I will probably sling that in the gully we have, it is free of bamboo, and thus safe.
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Quote: “Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.”
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Now I am relieved. When I read "Another Thought for the Day" on the main page, I was afraid that OG thinks twice a day 
Sorry OG should only be a joke  I like your TODD, but usually I'm not able to give comment.
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Fear not - I'm lucky to think once a day!
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Bruno Sprecher wrote: I was afraid that OG thinks twice a day
He does. The first thought is humbug, and the second is "baah!"
He's therefore a reverse Scrooge, so we need to handle him carefully -- with a left-handed scroogedriver.
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As long as it isn't a Hackersaw...
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Naah! They went extinct millions of years ago.
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Quote: and the second is "baah
FTFY
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Quote: I like your TODD*
You only like him when he's alone?
"on his Tod" is cockney rhyming slang for being alone
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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This quote is commonly mis-attributed to William Gibson, as well as (for the gullible) Freud, who says its source is Steven Winterburn. There are other claims to authorship: [^].
«I'm asked why doesn't C# implement feature X all the time. The answer's always the same: because no one ever designed, specified, implemented, tested, documented, shipped that feature. All six of those things are necessary to make a feature happen. They all cost huge amounts of time, effort and money.» Eric Lippert, Microsoft, 2009
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If all the world’s a stage, where does the audience sit?
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There is no audience. We are all players!
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