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glennPattonWork wrote: been grabbed by the guy to do a chunk of the testing
Do you feel fulfilled. 
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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Not really! I'm awkward!! 
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glennPattonWork wrote: I just haven't heard anything for a good 24 hours (getting toward 36 now!),
You haven't heard anything bad either, this is a good thing.
glennPattonWork wrote: "is it working?
if it isn't you'd probably know in about .5ns.
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I am off Monday & Tuesday so please don't find any bugs before home time tonight! is all I can say/type 
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glennPattonWork wrote: I am off Monday & Tuesday so please don't find any bugs before home time tonight!
They have your telephone number! 
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Are we truly ever off? 
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Hello all,
I've noticed that lately (ultra-overworked) I've got neck ache (top part of my back and lower part of my head gets stiff).
I'm working with two 24" wide monitors in vertical position and I've noticed that I'm looking usually to the upper part of those monitors as the code I write/review is not always long and it is on the upper part of the screen.
I'm not sure of that, but I'm starting to suspect I'm getting old + that my neck is working too much using that display combination.
Given the fact I do need two displays to work, what would you recommend me? I'm now trying both displays in the horizontal position and it looks like my neck is relaxing a little.
Which monitor set would you recommend me?
Thank you in advance! 
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I would stick with the two 24" monitors horizontally aligned to each other.
Can you use one in portrait and one in landscape? I have tried that with my two 24" monitors in the past and you get the best of both worlds like that.
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At the end both of them are in landscape and no more neck ache... and now that I've got used to it, I'm quite happy. 
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I'm not a ergonomics expert by any means, I recommend you ask one, but having your monitors side by side seems to make more sense as your neck normally does much more turning side to side than up and down and so works better that way.
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At the end both of them are in landscape and no more neck ache... and now that I've got used to it, I'm quite happy.
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Joan Murt wrote: neck ache (top part of my back and lower part of my head gets stiff).
Thanks for the definition that saved me a google. 
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You know: not being an English native speaker I was not sure if that would be enough to explain myself... 
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P0mpey3 wrote: part of my head gets stiff
Try googling that.
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Imagine that: so much my neck aches...
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In August I started working with two monitors. One was set in the horizontal, the other one in the vertical position by the IT department. I almost immediately noticed pain in my neck.
I changed two things with the setup and it got rid of the neck pain: I put both monitors in horizontal position and lowered the monitors so my eyes are in line with the top 25% of the monitors. I definitely feel that puts less strain on my neck than having to constantly tilt my head back to look up.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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That's the basic egonomic advice I believe, your eyes should be in line with the top of the monitor, so you're not having to look up.
I have three monitors, two horizontal (on risers) and one vertical, so the tops all line up and are line up as specified. Works fine.
Doesn't make any difference to my lower back unfortunately, that's the real bane of sedentary occupations.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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At the end both of them are in landscape and no more neck ache... and now that I've got used to it, I'm quite happy.
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Great! With all the time we spend in front of those things, it is important to have them set up in a way that doesn't make us sick.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I use a pair of 22" monitors, one landscape, one portrait, which the tops of both aligned with my "normally seated" straight ahead vision - so I look down slightly to view any information on either screen.
I get no neck pain - but I did years ago when the top of my one-and-only 17" monitor was higher than that seated position (due to limitations from the building I was working in at the time).
I do get shoulder pain - but that's because the gas lift in my new chair is failing and I'm slowing sinking to the floor as I type...
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Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: the gas lift in my new chair is failing and I'm slowing sinking to the floor as I type...
And as the Sun Griff sinks slowly in the West...... 
A positive attitude may not solve every problem, but it will annoy enough people to be worth the effort.
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It's damn annoying in fact - I start the day in a good ergonomic position and slowly my elbows rise while I'm typing, taking my shoulders with them, and I get stiff and painful. Have to follow up the company I bought it from and see what is happening...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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At the end both of them are in landscape and no more neck ache... and now that I've got used to it, I'm quite happy.
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I would recommend you a nice comfy chair to sit on with part for your head. That will relieve your neck pain. The line of view(of the monitors) should be at the same level as you normally watch something, not lower or higher.
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At the end both of them are in landscape and no more neck ache... and now that I've got used to it, I'm quite happy.
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