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25-Aug-14 21:30

After having to put up with merkins wishing me a happy 4th Of July I wish to belatedly celebrate the 24th August

and the burning of the White House

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington[^]

seemingly the US got upset

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/special-relationship-endures-minor-social-media-blip-after-british-embassy-appears-to-celebrate-the-burning-down-of-the-white-house-9689385.html[^]

maybe they will think twice about Celebrating the 4th in future

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

modified 26-Aug-14 3:39am.

Chris Quinn25-Aug-14 23:26

Chris Quinn

25-Aug-14 23:26

They should thank us, as they wouldn't have a White House - before we burnt it it was made of gray stone, - they had to whitewash it to hide the smoke staining.

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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson25-Aug-14 23:43

25-Aug-14 23:43

yes the "Off White House" or the "Grey House" or the "Mucky White with Brown Bits House" doesn't have the same ring, does it

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

charlieg26-Aug-14 1:38

26-Aug-14 1:38

At which point, the fledgling US Navy poked the Royal Navy in the eye bye taking HMS Guerriere, Java, Pictou, Cyane and Levant. Smile | :)

Some bloody ship named the Constitution....

But thanks for the history lesson.

Long ago I worked with a guy that had a very, very good Japanese friend. His friend would always send him a Happy Pearl Harbor Day card around 12/7. He, in turn would send him a card on 8/6 or 9/2 depending on his whim.

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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson26-Aug-14 5:32

26-Aug-14 5:32

yes the connie did do well, the fact that if she was in RN service she would have been classed as ship of the line as she carried thirty 24-pounders on the main deck, twenty-four 32-pounders and two bored out 18-pounders on the upper desk whilst those poor little frigates she engaged were all 18 pounders ships.

she, I note NEVER picked on something her own size

ok to be fair
HMS Guerriere was a 38 x 18pounder Frigate
HMS Java was a 28 x 18 pounder Frigate
HMS Pictou was a 14 x12 pounder schooner
HMS Cyane was a 22 x 18 pounder Frigate
HMS Levant was a 20 x Carronade Light Frigate

it is debateable was to whether the total broad side of ALL of these ships would be greater than that of the Connie let alone individually.

I do notice that it never tried the HMS Leander for size (let alone say the Victory or another 1st rate), that would have been a fairer fight, being proud of victories is one thing but this smacks of the big kid beating up the 1st year for his pocket money

If I remember correctly the only victory you had on land occurred after the signing of the peace treaty

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

charlieg26-Aug-14 5:37

26-Aug-14 5:37

Ah, the man knows his Frigates Smile | :)

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Point taken, the Humphries class frigates agreeably outclassed said British frigates. Oops, you hate that when it happens...

As far on victory on land, well, there was 1781 and a place named Yorktown Poke tongue | ;-P

but I think you mean to constrain the discussion to 1812. Absolutely fascinating history reading of the US and Europe during this time period.

Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson26-Aug-14 7:56

26-Aug-14 7:56

As I said the Connie would not have been classed as a frigate in rn service

And whilst you did have yorktown etc I wonderif yorktown would have had the same result with troops from wellingtons army instead of 3rd rate misfits and mercenaries

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

PIEBALDconsult26-Aug-14 8:54

PIEBALDconsult

26-Aug-14 8:54

The appropriate buzzword is "low-hanging fruit".

charlieg26-Aug-14 11:57

26-Aug-14 11:57

Misfits and Mercenaries against farmers and shopkeepers. Even match. Smile | :)

Connie - I agree. I have a book on my shelf "The Frigates" - a good read.

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson26-Aug-14 20:53

26-Aug-14 20:53

you forgot the large force of French (which Nappy wanted back but didn't have the ships to do it)

If you ever get this side of the pond we have a couple of them left there is HMS Unicorn at Dundee and HMS Trincomalee at Hartlepool

and of course the longest commissioned warship HMS Victory

and something a bit later in HMS Warrior also at Portsmouth a ship when launched was reckoned to be the equal of any TWO foreign NAVIES

(we should have kept HMS Dreadnaught as she too was a revolution in warships)

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

charlieg27-Aug-14 1:52

27-Aug-14 1:52

No, hadn't forgotten them at all... like I said, the politics right around 1800-1840 were nothing short of amazing.

Anyway, I have been to Boston numerous times, have seen the Connie, have not yet been able to tour her. Checking out HMS Victory just went on my bucket list. I'll have to look up the others. One of my favorite movies is Master and Commander - mainly because it's one of my first blue ray dvds, and it do like nice on the big screen.

sailor at heart....

Mark_Wallace26-Aug-14 19:49

Mark_Wallace

26-Aug-14 19:49

"a picture and caption that was clearly meant as a light-hearted trolling of Americans. Many of them, however, appeared not to get the joke"

Not getting jokes appears to be something of an American specialty. Don't even ask one to define the word "irony"; you'll be there all day.

I imagine that this will be celebrated every year in the UK, from now on. I shall certainly throw a party.

BTW, were you aware that the original design for the statue of liberty had her thumbing her nose in the direction of England? At least the French have a sense of humour.

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charlieg27-Aug-14 1:53

27-Aug-14 1:53

Please document the Statue of Liberty statement! I love it.

Can't take a joke - sad, isn't it? We have so many people walking around with chips on their shoulders, just waiting for someone to offend them.

Rule of the day (CPROTD)

CBadger25-Aug-14 19:57

CBadger

25-Aug-14 19:57

Code Project Rule of the Day:
1A. Anything you say, no matter how truthful or carefully picked, WILL be deemed wrong if the majority is against you.

Today we rest on a very important rule. Find the guidelines here[©] Suspicious | :suss:

Lets meditate on this rule and try and implement it in our daily CP use today. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

For any new rules feel free to comment here and it might be added

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Amarnath S25-Aug-14 20:14

Amarnath S

25-Aug-14 20:14

Majority - let us prove this to be wrong Smile | :)

Nagy Vilmos25-Aug-14 20:36

Nagy Vilmos

25-Aug-14 20:36

That is completely and utterly wrong!

Sanjay K. Gupta25-Aug-14 20:51

Sanjay K. Gupta

25-Aug-14 20:51

You can make a fantastic game on CP. Rules would be as.

You will post a CPROTD.
One has to find the actual discussion link which follows your rule. Like in above case one has to find the discussion where OP has started a truthful topic and had downvoted or removed badly. Smile | :)

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CBadger25-Aug-14 21:09

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25-Aug-14 21:09

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