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You beat me to it.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Hi All,
I know there are several Cyclist regulars here so you maybe able to answer the question, on my walk to (& from) work I usually walk past a cycle path in which none of the cyclists use. It is on the side of a (at times busy) road. Having walked up & down this road both day & night I can say for certain that cyclists use the foot path not the cycle lane. Also in town/shopping areas a lot of the locals ride in pedestrian areas and view pedestrians as either viable targets to run down or an inconvenience (tends to be hip youngsters). The worst however are the "I'm riding to save the earth type" you point out to them that the bike they are riding is made from very polluting alloys, the fact that the lycra outfit is made form oil... the best thing they could do is walk get greeted by the "I haven't got time", just thinking... (all right I flatten by a cyclist this morning and letting the venom out  )
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I do use the cycle lane if available (and in a decent state). If the cycle lane is not available or practicable, I just ride on the road. I never ride in the foot path.
As runner, however, I often invade the cycle path.
Veni, vidi, vici.
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Cyclists are to road users what cats are to humans: evil.
Unless you are a cyclist, in which case Everyone not riding a bicycle are to road users what cats are to humans: evil.
Oh, and yes, cats are evil anyway.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I guess you have been run over by a cat. 
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... a cat riding a bike ...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Well I have been caught by a Cat riding a bike (to be more accurate) a human holding a cat (which had it's paws on the handle bars...)
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Isn't it odd how many people rant against cyclists whenever they see one doing something wrong on the road? And yet we almost never hear similar tirades against motorists, who regularly drive at 30-40% above the speed limit down the road where I live, park on the pavement, jump red lights, fail to stop at pedestrian crossings, etc., etc. Or the pedestrians who step out in front of me when I'm riding (legally) on the road on my bike?
And, for the record, I regularly walk, cycle, and drive (motorbike and car). And probably break the odd rule.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: who regularly drive at 30-40% above the speed limit [etc...]
They do because they can 
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Yeah. There are some dicks in every form of transport but cyclists seem to be grouped together in a way that pedestrians and motorists aren't.
That said, riding on the road is not being a dick, it's an entirely legitimate thing for a vehicle to do, and cycle paths are typically terrible and badly maintained.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: park on the pavement,
I do miss having a pushchair with me when I come across a car blocking the pavement. Not my fault if their car gets all scratched and the wing mirror falls off as I try to get by.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: And probably break the odd rule.
To be honest Richard, you are odd...
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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You only just figured that out?
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
You only just figured that out?
I never new about the odd rule. 
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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I work in Oxford and we certainly have a lot of cyclists. I noticed a lot of them do not use the cycle paths and instead use the road. Being a driver it annoyed me a little so I asked a friend of mine who regularly cycles. Simply put it is easier to use the road for more experienced cyclists.
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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That's often because cycle paths often force the cyclist to be like a second-rate pedestrian, cycling alongside left-turning traffic (UK), while merging with the normal flow is frequently safer and quicker.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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For people who potter about on their bikes then cycle paths are fine . But a decent cyclist can average over 20mph . These cycle lanes where you give way to cars every 100 yards or so mean that you end up stopping every few seconds . On a 10 mile commute it can easily double the time it takes to get to work .
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Cyclists, generally, are selfish people who think they have the right to do whatever they want. Ringing your bell and shouting at me to get out of the way on the foot path will not work. Get off the sidewalk and onto the road where you belong.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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mark merrens wrote: CyclMotorists, generally, are selfish people who think they have the right to do whatever they want.
FTFY
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: MotoristsPeople, generally, are selfish people who think they have the right to do whatever they want.
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Yes, and I demand my right to be right.
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Even better, I hereby grant you the right to be correct.
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