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I am running tax reports that involve a lot of sitting looking at a screen whilst doing nothing.
It seems we both have time on our hands today!
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Sounds to me like your specification is evolving 
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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Dalek Dave wrote: Half of British Adults don't believe in Evolution? Really?
No way. They got that mixed up with the US.
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The US is filled with fundamentalist religious types, the UK used not to be.
Unfortunately we have let in so many that are afflicted with that most awful of mental disorders, religion, and let them breed and brainwash their children, that the number of people who have any ability for scientific thought processes or are capable of reason and argument based on evidence and fact are reducing.
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Dalek Dave wrote: I didn't realise there were so many stupid people. Although a lot of them will be prepared to believe in a sky pixie or some other shite like that.
I totally agree. Just like the people who don't believe we landed on the Moon.
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You have proof of this amazing claim?
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Yes the Chinese or the Russians don't dispute it.
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That is not proof.
I have a theory that my dog can talk, but they haven't disputed that either so it must be true.
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If your dog could talk you would have been arrested and signing the register by now.
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He is shy
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Dalek Dave wrote: they haven't disputed that either so it must be true.
I dispute it. Your turn.
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I dispute the moon landings, therefore they didn't happen.
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Dalek Dave wrote: Half of British Adults don't believe in Evolution? Really? I didn't realise there were so many stupid people
Did you just use a fundamentalist style statement? To paraphrase what you wrote: You don't believe what I believe, therefore you are stupid.
Dave, I thought you were more well spoken than that.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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I believe the Earth travels round the sun.
The church said it didn't and many people believed the church.
And that is the problem. Religion is a barrier to intelligent thought and scientific reasoning.
Just because it was written in a book don't make it so.
(qv the same is true of science, and the default position is to say I Don't Know, but the current theory that fits the facts and observed evidence is [INSERT CURRENT THEORY]
For many years teachers told children to sit upright else they would damage their backs, but this has since been found out to be rubbish and that slouching is better.
However the dogma persists and children are being damaged by ignorance.
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Dalek Dave wrote: I believe the Earth travels round the sun.
Only "believe"? Not "know"?
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I'll just drop this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus[^]
The guy that said that earth travels around the sun was from the church.
I do agree with you that dogma and lack of intelligent thought/scientific reasoning is bad, but being religious does not implies that.
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But from reading about Galileo much of his work was agreed from the Catholic church but they said that it couldn't conflict with people's religious beliefs.
from what I read it implied that the church tried to suppress scientific advancements in its early years to safeguard its teachings.
But I also believe that it didn't suppress science or intellectual advancement but very selective at the time due to its power what it released / agreed with.
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Yeah, church as a organization really tried to suppress scientific advancement.
But religious people were capable of overcoming that suppression and laying the foundations of today's theories, that was my point, being religious does not automaticaly implies that the person has no capacity for scientific thinking.
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What astonishes me is the number of highly intelligent and capable people who are religious as I consider religion the panacea of a weak mind.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
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The human mind is weak and religion is the panacea, created to explain what we can not.
Realizing the amount of stuff we don't know and taking a glance at the possibilities can be devastating to the mind, that's why people turn to religion.
One example of such realization is Sir Arthur C. Clarke's Quote:
Sir Arthur Charles Clarke: Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Once we know the "truth", we get used to it. But, in the mean time, the possibilities make we look for confort, and religion is aways there to say that you don't have to think about it, after all, it's some god's work.
And just because i like his quotes, i'll drop this one here too:
Sir Arthur Charles Clarke: If we have learned one thing from the history of invention and discovery, it is that, in the long run — and often in the short one — the most daring prophecies seem laughably conservative.
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By your reasoning, here's a short list of stupid people, some who wrote books:
Johannes Kepler, Louis Pasteur, Isaac Newton, the Wright brothers, Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Michael Faraday, Neils Bohr, Galileo Galilei, James Clerk Maxwell, Edwin Hubble, Dmitri Mendeleev, Erwin Schroedinger…
I'm not telling you that your belief is correct or incorrect, but when you make sweeping statements, it does not help your argument.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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S Houghtelin wrote: You don't believe what I believe, therefore you are stupid.
If someone claimed that 1 + 1 = 3, would you respect their right to believe something that you don't, or would you laugh at them for being stupid?
If someone tried to pass a law asserting that π is exactly 3.2, would you accept their belief, or laugh them out of court[^]?
Unfortunately, most people who refuse to "believe" in evolution do so not because they have a better theory, but because it conflicts with their religious beliefs. And that's fine, until they start trying to claim that their religious beliefs have as much scientific credibility as evolution, and should be given equal billing in science lessons.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I am not debating evolution, that discussion needs to go no further.
I was just pointing out to the honearble Dalek that answering in the same manner of childish argument of those he opposes does nothing to support his contentions. It places him in the company of those he opposes.
As Mr. Lynch pointed out "calling people stupid because they don't agree with you is bigotry"
Assuming that your opponent is stupid, and saying as much, does little to support the veracity of your point of view. This also immediately shuts down any avenue of meaningful discussion to provide support to the validity of your point of view. A kind of "I can't talk to you, you're too stupid to understand" before any dialog even begins.
You only end in shouting matches or discussions with only people who think the same way. The opportunity to enlighten or to be enlightened in either case is lost.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Quote: 1 + 1 = 3
Quote: π is exactly 3.2
The difference is those are not theories. The analogy isn't quite accurate.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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