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dsmrtn wrote: I would stay their until, and if, they ever tired of me.
Wow. I thought slavery was abolished. 
Marc
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I preferred to think I was well liked...smile...
Slavery was never abolished. It was maybe shelved, then dusted off, updated and expanded to include, well, most everyone. Liberalism at its' finiest - control of everyone and everything from cradle to grave.
I'm torn. I'm mostly a .Net guy these days. I love the new IDEs, the debugging, objects and such, the whole immediate gratification you can have now days. But I miss a lot about the old days - desk checking because your program deck only got read into card reader once a day during the day, and as often as you could squeeze in on Production shift off hours if the operators like you. And I do miss IBM 360 style assembler. Anyone can hack at Cobol or VB3 and program - homemakers could - whatever gender they might be. But getting your program to work in assembler - I always felt more accomplished. Oh, and shooting dumps.
Given the technology curve, wonder what the technolgy will be like. This is still kind of on point, but I've heard many jobs will be replaced by robots to include vehicles that drive themselves for delivery, snow plowing, manufacturing at every level, etc. That the computer will be as fast as our brain in 10 years or so, so I'm guessing they will be able to develop a scripting language that turns requirements into decent code and then stop offshoring our jobs, they can just depreciate most of us, everywhere.
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It gets more funny when several different agencies call you for the same job, this happens here very often...
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Marc, I feel for you I really do, in fact it's not just over in the States but here in the UK it's just as bad too.
These days I generally only try to deal with recruiters that I know and trust, I'm working on a project at the moment, which is all based on PHP and for the most part I'm getting asked to do css and design changes on the company website rather than any serious coding.
Prior to this project, I applied for several .NET related contracts in the area, and guess what? I got told that I didn't have the "Depth of experience" they where looking for, despite the fact that I've been using .NET right since the early alphas (Pre v1 run-time)
All I see time and time again is companies that want fresh out of college hip you developers (SO they can mold them to their own image of what they think a dev should be) but they want them with all the skills and experience of a guy like you and I (30+ years experience)
The "Get out of software development" quote is ironic, because I myself these days earn more income as a Pluralsite Author and Succinctly E-book author than I do from any software projects.
This industry is in a complete shambles, and maybe sometime I'll fully document my thoughts here on CP, but for now unless your willing to just become a "yes sir" "no sir" programmer that writes what your told when your told how your told, then there's no future for the like of you and I unless you branch out elsewhere.
I for example am seriously considering going into the education market full-time either as a lecturer for hire or as a corporate trainer, because like you I've had enough of the sh*t.
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Peter Shaw wrote: because I myself these days earn more income as a Pluralsite Author and Succinctly E-book author than I do from any software projects.
Heh, I have one Succinctly book out with SyncFusion and I really need to be working on the second one!
I'll have to check out Pluralsite.
Peter Shaw wrote: for example am seriously considering going into the education market full-time either as a lecturer for hire or as a corporate trainer
For me, Life Coaching and Psychology are of interest. We should check in with each other and see how it goes!
Marc
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Absolutely
oh and iv'e read your book, very informative.
Feel free to hunt me down on twitter im @shawty_ds or just look for 'Lidnug' on Linked-in im not difficult to find
Hunt me down and we can hook up via email or something ....
PS: my two books are the GIS and Postgres ones, and I'm waiting on them publishing my Bootstrap V2 one too.
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Who he? I hear you ask.
He him Here[^]
Two Nobel Prizes and the Sanger Institute named after him.
One of Blighty's Biggest Brains has departed the field after a magnificent innings.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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A remarkable man.
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Another great loss unfortunately, blighty seems to have lost quite a few in recent times.
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Found out yesterday that due to a degenerative condition that I have, I need to have back surgery to decompress several discs and to remove bone spurs. It has been very painful to walk, and exercise has been difficult. I need to go for a CT scan today so the Dr. has recent pictures to perform the surgery.
I will have to cancel some gigs my band has in January.
I have lost over 20 pounds in a race against time by riding bike 3 to 5 miles a day and keeping active. Time beat me on this round. Oh well, being in better shape will speed up the recovery. I know that I wanted some time off, but this is not what I had in mind.
The upshot is that the project I am on at work is just at the point where I can wrap up a few loose ends and off to testing it can go. Woo hoo!
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Good luck! I hope you won't need it, and you probably won't.
I've had back pain only the once, and it wasn't any fun at all - so it's got to be good that they're operating sooner rather than later.
Hope the recovery goes well!
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Ouch! ...sounds painful... wishing you a full recovery...
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Ugh, that sucks, and I can sympathize since I believe I'm headed that way myself. Degenerative disc disease, spinal stenosis, etc. Sucks to get old.
Scott
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Speaking as someone who's had the back surgery, may I offer my best wishes, and a little piece of advice? You've mentioned you're currently active... STAY active! It REALLY speeds up the recovery process. Even when you don't want to get up and go for a walk, do it. It will be worth it. I was given a six-month recovery window, and by the time I was discharged from the hospital I was walking about 1.5 kilometers a day (around the ward, to be sure, but walking nonetheless.)
Take care of that, though! You only have a one back!
Be well!
-J
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Get a nice and fast recovery. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
Keep coming during the recovery, probably in January there will be a "XXX walks into a bar..." joke that will be funny at all... 
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Good luck and hope recovery is swift.
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I know everything about compressed discs. 
But luckily I haven't experienced bone spurs.
Good luck with the op!
Oh, and it's true what they say, keeping active will help healing faster.
Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers.
Buckminster Fuller
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Wishing you a swift and uneventful recovery, followed by a quick return to playing with your band!
/ravi
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Never has a tag line been more appropriate.
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It is broke, so I'll have it fixed.
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Best wishes for your health, and a speedy recovery !
bill
"What Turing gave us for the first time (and without Turing you just couldn't do any of this) is he gave us a way of thinking about and taking seriously and thinking in a disciplined way about phenomena that have, as I like to say, trillions of moving parts.
Until the late 20th century, nobody knew how to take seriously a machine with a trillion moving parts. It's just mind-boggling." Daniel C. Dennett
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Have a speedy recovery! Read your signature again.
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Fun Find OTD:
When clicking on the Find Next button in Excel (2010), the mouse moves with the dialog when it covers up the cell in which the text is found. Never knew it did that. 
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^ That is the first time in my life where I forgot something as I was reading it. 
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Great! Now create an app for it to use against the NSA.
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