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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Pi* off!
To how many decimal places?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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This year why don't you propose an alcohol free party where everyone challenges each other with self improvement ideas for the upcoming year?
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As I said above. But twice. 
speramus in juniperus
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*MehGerbil makes a note to mention Nagy's need for patience should he be asked to attend the self-improvement party*
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MehGerbil wrote: self improvement ideas for the upcoming year?
Talking of which, 283 days in[^], still no pandas punched.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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You're like a hero to me.
I didn't even make it a full week.
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Bravo, Chris!
My resolution was to put more things off. That was in 1973, and I haven't got around to making any more resolutions.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Creiff Hydro[^]
I haven't been for a long time, but everyone still hypes on about it up here.
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If you go there please let me know how it was. Many, many years ago some of my ancestors used to own the original castle it has been developed upon.. until a great, great uncle (not so great actually) lost it in a poker game!
[EDIT] Oops! Wrong castle! This is the one I was talking about: [^] Also a great place to try out.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Now that Michael Whinger is no longer likely to be there, this[^] might fit the bill.
And what a staggering Bill it would be! 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: - Hotel with CHILD FRIENDLY NEW YEARS PROGRAM. 100% requirement; cannot be ignored.
- UK based.
I keep returning to the same conclusion - can't get it outta my head: why bother?
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I'm so un-holidayed this year that I'd settle for a playstation and a couple of crates of beer.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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How about here[^]? It's quite nice, family friendly, and has no shortage of adult beverages. It also happens to be U.K. based, if not exactly geographically congruent. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/09/gross-u-s-taxpayers-shelled-out-634320919-to-build-obamacare-website/[^]
I love this quote: "... seem to have forked up more than $634 million of the federal purse to build the digital equivalent of a rock."
But I read that CGI Federal is the darling Canadian company loved by all. Anyone up north care to comment?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Ummm, As a non US citizen or resident (UK) (hopefully you are) can you explain the fuss that Obama has caused to an outsider, The US seems to in limbo over this. It seems like a good idea but...
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Put simply, if you have no money and break the law the government will pay for you to be defended but if you break your leg then you're on your own.
speramus in juniperus
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I thought that is the way it was anyway...
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Me too! 
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Oh Lord, where to start?  Generally soap box material, but I'll see if I can be fair. Disclaimer: if it were up to me, I'd impeach his sorry a$$. He is an egomaniacal prick.
Pragmatically, the US healthcare system has issues. In an attempt to fix these issues, for a brief disastrous moment, the progressives were in complete control of the US government: Congress and the Executive Branch. As a result, they forced through the Affordable Care Act, also known and forever known as ObamaCare. The law was 2000+ pages, and commenting on the law, then current speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi said, "You have to pass the law to find out what is in it." Not a good indication.
Further, they did not address the real cost issues of the healthcare system - for example, tort reform. Worse, they just flat out lied to make it more acceptable. Now the reality is hitting.
After the law was passed, people smarter than me, read it. They made some predictions based on common sense:
1) Costs will go up for less coverage. Less providers.
2) There will be rationing of healthcare services.
3) The law forces businesses with more than 50 full time employees to provide insurance or pay
HUGE fines. As a result, many employees will be reduced to part time status. Companies will
also drop their plans.
4) Doctors will leave the medical profession.
5) There will be a HUGE increase in the number of people using Medicaid (I think that's our poverty
program) swamping the system.
I have personally seen #1, 3, and 4 occur. California is seeing 2 and 5, but I cannot speak to them. The fact is, it was sold as "free health care" to the ignorant masses. Mind you, I run my own business, I know the reality of what has to happen to pay for insurance. Most employees are clueless, because the cost is hidden from them.
I think that is a fair assessment. The world runs on TANSTAAFL (look it up). So, as bumbling as government is, we want them "doing healthcare"?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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What you're missing is the European model. In general everyone pays into the healthcare pot and then when you need treatment it's there for you. There's the option to buy extra cover - so you can choose when and where you are treated - but for most health care we do okay.
The NHS is much maligned, but I know many people who are alive today [my mother and brother included] who despite being affluent would not have been able to cover their life saving treatment. AFAIK, my Mother would not now be able to get any health cover under the US system.
Sorry, but as far as being ill it sucks to be you.
speramus in juniperus
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Fair enough, but I don't think I missed it.
If the American people want to go to a European style of healthcare, that's fine. Just sell it that way. Don't call a penalty a fee then claim it's a tax. The entire law was sold as a lie. As soon as Congress exempted themselves, the gig was up.
NHS much maligned - I think I'm going to agree with you on this. I suspect any healthcare system has its horror stories.
Nagy, help me here - is there such a thing as malpractice in the European model? I'm ignorant. If a doctor or hospital screws up a procedure, can you sue?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Malpractice is here.
speramus in juniperus
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charlieg wrote: is there such a thing as malpractice in the European model? I'm ignorant. If a doctor or hospital screws up a procedure, can you sue?
Yes.
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