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Blast the NSA. Win 8 was enough 
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If they would remove the tiles (have enough of them in my house as it is) and had a start button, but noooo....
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Kenneth Haugland wrote: there is also something called development time
True.
Assembly must be quicker to develop, because you have to type fewer characters.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I must say, Im not very good at reading assembly though
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Hex keyboard. Machine language and a hex keyboard.
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So it's also quicker to learn, because you don't have to master such a big character set!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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DaveAuld wrote: I may understand what I should considering laughing at...
A man walks into a bar and says ouch. It was an iron bar.
speramus in juniperus
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Savage bar I'd say... Unless you often walk into irony bars.
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"Iron Man" is a Super Hero. "Iron women" is a command. 
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Should be Iron Woman though
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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(That's an 'M')
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No! Women. If you say "iron woman" you might get trouble. If you say 'iron women', if falls under labor. 
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DaveAuld wrote: Maybe once you tell me I may understand what I should considering laughing at...
Synopsis: Assembler and all higher level languages are for sissies, 1's and 0's is the only way to go. 
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Here you go.[^] Just as I always said, but I prefer a hex keyboard. Toggle switches are too slow.
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CDP1802 wrote: Just as I always said, but I prefer a hex keyboard. Toggle switches are too slow.
I agree with you there! See you got it working, looking good!
Is that an old wire wrap tool there on the table?
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Oh, sorry. That's a replica of the original, not mine. My old omputer is only a year younger, but did not need any more wire wrapping and has a hex keyboard.
Here[^] you can see one like mine being made functional again. The 'mainboard' essentially is the same as the wirewrapped original, but with some improvements. The one shown there is quite similar to mine, I just never had more than 4k RAM, but at least it still works perfectly after all the years.
This year I was outside a lot, trying to fly around with (model) helicopters. By now good weather at the weekend is getting more rare, so chances are good that I will have more time for working on the Elf III with 16 mb RAM and perhaps the prototype for a multi CPU Elf IV
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I checked prices on ebay for the Elf, couldn't afford one then and can't afford one now...damn expensive! But would be fun to play with, maybe I'll develop an equivalent one using an AVR?
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Build one from scratch. The original cost 100$ in 1977 and that has not changed very much. Some parts, like the CDP1802 are a little harder to get, but I can help with that.
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The one thing that holds me back from doing a lot of projects is PCB fabrication. I've been looking at different ways to DIY but haven't taken the leap yet. To have them made is a tad expensive but the result is a lot better than I could probably do. I tried wire wrap years ago and was terrible at it so I feel that is not a real option.
CDP1802 wrote: Some parts, like the CDP1802 are a little harder to get, but I can help with that.
Thanks will keep that in mind if/when I get to that point.
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CDP1802 wrote: Here you go.[^] Just as I always said, but I prefer a hex keyboard. Toggle switches are too slow.
Not if you use these toggle switches PDP-8/I[^], in high school we had to enter the boot program by hand. There were arguments on whether it was faster to toggle the switches as they were or to swipe across to reset before setting them.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Actually, I find the most important factor to be the demand and availability of a Programming language.
At college I always wanted to learn C++, even when they said "Yeah, we have C++" they did not. They lied to me and then flat-out gave me C#.
Honestly, after finishing my studies on C# this year in December, I'll probably get myself a course on C++. After all, the more program languages you learn, the better your scope is.
It all comes down to scope in my opinion. Different languages (like the variation of Pascal we have at work) have different scopes, therefore once learning a scope, you're able to do more in a language.
I think my logic is a little confused (Haven't been coding all that much lately, company has given me formwork to do most of the time.) but I'm sure to take my final C# test in about January/February next year.
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Eiffel - now there's a name. With all the imagery of phallic, Gaulloise-smoked France, how could it not be a success? I even made it say 'Hello World'. Eventually. With a French accent of course. 
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Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote: Eiffel - now there's a name.
It definitely sounds better than YUCK (or however it's spelled...) 
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Actually it's not so bad, as long as you use a black & white monitor with a grainy picture and smoke plenty of Gaulloises while getting an Algerian craftsman to do the actual coding while you talk in a depressed way to your girlfriend, sitting with a full ash tray and empty coffee thimbles. 
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