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We use TFS too - & I hate it - not sure if that is because of TFS or the way we use it!
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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(That's an 'M')
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We've been using TFS for a few months now. I don't like tools that tell you how to work rather than let you work the way you want.
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We used OnTime at a previous joint, and that seemed to work quite well - it was pretty easy to set up and also gave our customers a portal so they could log support issues, which could then be turned into tasks and their progress followed - it worked really well for us.
TFS seems to just be harder to manage all round - though as I said, we may well be using it wrong, as we seem to do everything else wrong here !
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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_Maxxx_ wrote: we seem to do everything else wrong here !
Your choice of tool should support that.
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Unfortunately I didn't get to choose the tools that work here 
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: _Maxxx_ wrote: we seem to do everything else wrong here !
Your choice of tool should support that.
Managers always choose tools that make you do everything wrong, so no problem.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: tell you how to work
It's not the tool, it's the team.
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I had the dubious pleasure to do a project with a whole team of tools. Most were of the Java cargo cult flavor, but they also were great thinkers. For example, they thought themselves to be very agile, but actually met everything outside their cargo cult with the agility of an anvil.
I really miss them. 
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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Sounds like they managed to bend you 
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No. They got me fired for the first time ever. The best thing that could have happened to me.
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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Just made a very minor update to a tip and some changes were made by the approver (editor), with which I have no issue at all (in fact am grateful for the time and effort), however I was amused to see quite a few stylistic changes and one spelling change in particular (pluralisation, so you could call it grammar) that is highly dependent on which version of English is native to you (or which version you have studied as a second language).
Current English (I refuse to write British English, it's tautological ) would suggest strongly the singular - I can't however speak for true nerds masters of the English language, I'd have go dig into some of my English dictionaries and usage guides for that and I don't have the inclination right now. Whereas, I think, North American usage (a language I have taken to calling American) would suggest the plural:
...a couple of folk at...
...a couple of folks at...
It doesn't really matter too much to me but it does suggest a real stickler is hiding behind the scenes somewhere
A google search of is 'folk' plural or singular[^] would seem to agree that folk without the s can certainly be plural.
(Yes I do get I slight peak of annoyance everytime I have to select a language in any MS product - grrrr).
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The quickest way to get your head around this is as follows.
Whatever the Yanks want to do is wrong. Do the opposite and she'll be right mate.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: Whatever the Yanks want to do is wrong
No, no, it's just 'American', that which has been corrected was 'English' or at least my native version of it, I dare say you have another
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And tell the yanks to folk off !
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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For interest (if indeed anyone is so), and it's just one view whereas there are indeed many views (probably more than versions, official or unoffical, of English):
The plurals problem[^]
dr lim chin lam: Then there are the nouns where the singular and the plural forms have slightly or entirely different meanings. For example, folk refers to people in general or people in a community (the folk at Tanjong Rambutan), whereas folks is a more intimate term, referring to members of one’s own family (he reminisced about the old folks at home); and desert is an arid, desolate area of land (there is scant vegetation in the desert), whereas deserts, pronounced “dizzerts”, is what one deserves as reward or punishment (he finally received his just deserts).
I don't know to what version of English this particular writer is referring.
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Mike-MadBadger wrote: I don't know to what version of English this particular writer is referring.
Olde or archaic English. Just Deserts is archaic at least and in modern English deserts is the plural of desert, that place where Roger lives.
Generally speaking if there is an erroneous S at the end of a word or even an expected S missing, it is a Yank thing.
For instance Lego is correct, Legos not even a word. Math is the first 4 letters of Mathematics and when shortened is spelt (not spelled) Maths.
And lets not even get started on their inconsistent use of French pronounciation in words, places and products.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: Just Deserts is archaic at least
I've definitely said that recently (and heard it recently) so unless archaic means before 2010 I'm not sure I agree
Whereas I totally agree about Maths and Lego 
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Mike-MadBadger wrote: I've definitely said that recently (and heard it recently) so unless archaic means before 2010 I'm not sure I agree
The saying is still in common use, deserts as the meaning deserving of is definitely archaic and not used outside of said saying.
Google and Wikipedia back me up.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I hate to be pedantic, but I think you will find the expression is just desserts
Of course, if you commute between the Sahara and the Kalahari, then you are quite right - it's just deserts. 
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Chris C-B wrote: I hate to be pedantic, but I think you will find the expression is just desserts
Of course, if you commute between the Sahara and the Kalahari, then you are quite right - it's just deserts.
Yeah...No, you're wrong it is Just deserts[^]
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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"Folk" is a collective noun; don't pluralize it -- says the representative from the great state of Arizona.
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Are you referring to the collective nouns rule?
If the sentence suggests a group you should use the singular form. If it implies more individuality you should use the plural form.
A couple of folk is dancing together.
A couple of folks are in their own cars.
That's how I was taught English, I am not sure that it has anything to do with being American or British.
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Hmmm, I suspect differences in usage as opposed to rules.
I would expect to hear:
A couple of folk are dancing.
My old folks (parents) are at home.
The old folk (parents again) are at home.
The s is optional and comprehensible in the second of those.
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