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Does anyone "really" know how?
I've been checking all over the net with conflicting results.
It's one of the most horrifically invasive things I've ever had to actually live with (for now). The Sc^mbags (at Chevy dealer) didn't tell me it can't really be turned off. They, GM, and OnStar (owned by GM) will not do it and won't say what will happen if its unplugged/de-antennaed/etc.
I was wondering about a foil hat for my vehicle (mine is too small).
Seriously, though. Does anyone have experience with a factory installed system?
(I'll be unable to reply to answers for a while - sorry folks)
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Instructions for getting rid of OnStar:
0. Drive your car to the nearest dealer of preferred non-GM brand.
1. Pick a car on their lot, any will do.
2. Drive away in your new car and wave at your GM as you drive off.
It's really pretty simple instructions. 
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You missed:
3. Explain to the nice police officer why you stole the new car instead of paying for it.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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"My one had OnStar, Officer"
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"On your way Sir. Have a nice day."
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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I bought a GM car in 1981. This is the first time I repeated that mistake since then. Also, the last.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I would imagine that there must be a fuse that this gets its power through: remove. Job done.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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unless it has a safty feature that stops the car working if its disconnected, a tracker that was easy to disable would be pretty pointless would it not?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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If only it were that simple. This horror is integrated throughout the vehicles (or so it is said by dealer, GM, OnStar, and many at online forums). There isn't an 'OnStar' fuse.
Some say pulling the fuse (which one is not clear) would also disable blue-tooth - fine, I don't use it.
Pulling the antenna (it has its own, along with connections to others) should greatly reduce communications, but even the little nub sticking out will make contact on occasion as a poor antenna.
Some things say disconnect it's power - others say that will make the care undriveable or cause other problems.
A lot of conflicting information, guesses, and knowledge and BS - all stewed together. Hence my posting to CP.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I get it. However, the device has to be powered to work. If you can figure out which fuse it gets that power through you should be able to remove it. What harm can it do to test this? If the car doesn't work, put the fuse back. Simple.
You may be able to find a wiring diagram online.
My next car might be a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ - if I can find one.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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My Chrysler has a built in thing that can locate it somehow if it gets stolen. Some kind of built in tracking device. I don't have a problem with that.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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So if I told you how to turn it off, you could have a problem
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I have trouble with cookies, flash-cookies, etc. They don't hold a candle to having someone able to follow you around. It wouldn't be so awful if I could simple disable it (which I would do). I am one of those who do have a problem with being logged.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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There's no problem with that... think people should have a choice whether they allow it or not. Giving you something you have absolutely no control over is really not a good solution at all.
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Ok, so what's wrong with OnStar?
I don't have it, just curious
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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He doesn't want the NSA tracking his every move as he prepares his terrorist plot.
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Perhaps he got nervous after this[^]? 
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It monitors your vehicle location to a central store.*
It has two way voice communications with the vehicle.
It can lock/unlock your vehicle, disable start-up, etc.
You can unsubscribe - but you cannot stop the above from occurring.
If it were computer software, it would be the worlds worst malware - not only stealing information about you, but doing it 'in your face', and built into the computer so you cannot delete it.
* This very personal info is being sold by GM/OnStar
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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It also monitors if your air bags have deployed. If this happens, they will get alerted and will send police and medical help to the site of the accident.
In Canada outside of the big metropolitan areas this can be a life saver.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Only if you keep paying them (implying you want location and other monitoring).
If I don't pay them, they still do all the monitoring - they'll just leave me by the roadside to die.
Sitalkes wrote: In Canada outside of the big metropolitan areas this can be a life saver.
Only if they have cell tower contact - else, tough luck Charlie. Their terms of service exclude them from responsibility for their service.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Their terms of service exclude them from responsibility for their service.
So...... you've been reading the fine print? ...be careful, GM might send a hit squad next.
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White House enlists Jeffrey Zients to help fix HealthCare.gov
I'm not interested in a political discussion here, but just curious how many of you would want to be "tapped" to fix something of this nature. (High risk, high profile, high stress; oh yeah, and if you screw up, you get a phone call from the President.)
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kdmote wrote: High risk, high profile, high stress;
Basically sounds like the potential of most of my jobs. If the system is down then if they are not screaming at me it just means they have a lot of self control. But I have just gotten use to ignoring it.
kdmote wrote: how many of you would want to be "tapped" to fix something of this nature
How much does it pay?
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It's easy. Shut down the website and put a phone number for registration:
Just dial 1-800-F1--KYO [^]
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Oh dear! I hadn't heard about that one. That CANNOT have been an accident.
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