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Ahmmm, O :pause: K ... lucky ...
Anyway, the clerk at Merriam Webster asked if you could please be so kind and send him the updated definition of lucky, it seems the world up till now has been misinformed.
The way I see this is the exact example of achieving without luck.
Lucky would be Ballmer's son.
Cheees,
Edo
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Edo Tzumer wrote: Anyway, the clerk at Merriam Webster...
Faarrrkkkk off, that sunshine Webster can't spell for shite. It's Oxford or it's nothing.
Edo Tzumer wrote: The way I see this is the exact example of achieving without luck.
Lucky would be Ballmer's son.
Ballmer is a knob jockey who lucked out into a company that went places and where he just missed out on being fired multiple times for being an embarrassing c**k. On his own ability, he would be dressed in a chicken suit outside Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Good Point Made. Companies would try to explore new horizons and that's how technology and product companies survive.
Apple is not trying to get into search business, they tried Map. 
Google is not trying to make a Biz server. They are advertisement dependent. So they would try to enter into every Media thing where they can push advertisement, Search, Video, Social Network, News, Android, Adsense, Gmail and yes chrome is there to boost their advertisement revenue. They pushed Chrome to counter Firefox's turn off advertisement feature. Simple.
Apple's business is their store, iTunes and Apps. They will follow a product line where people would need Apps, Tabs, iPad, iPod.... ( may be iWatch, iTV, iGame) etc. Don't be surprised to see an Apple product made especially for gaming or so.
MS is on the other hand better off to it's License based Products. Office, OS, VS, Server OS. Now what they are trying to do? Enter into App market in the model of Apple and Enter into internet with the model of Google.
They want a good Mobile platform. Why? So that they can push Bing and their App store. Historically Google has never dumped a popular product for another. Adsense is not killed for Android. Strategically they have combined their main business.
But MS has faltered. They introduced Silverlight ( way smoother than Flash) only to kill it. They started with XNA, killed it. Can you claim for sure that WinRT is here to stay?
But I can say that AdSense is going to be there in 2015, Youtube will also be there and so will the Android be ( Unless any of it is killed by severe competition).
MS has given great products only to abandon it.
I hope I made my point Pete.
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To a certain extent I agree, but I would debate with you about Google not killing products - they have been going through significant churn there. My point is just that Microsoft has had to adapt. They were complacent for a long time and, all of a sudden, the world has changed. Where Microsoft is really hampered is in the need to support legacy systems. If WinRT had been better named and a completely separate product, it might have been better received.
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Grasshopper.iics wrote: I am convinced by every passing days that MS has it's golden days over.
Myself I was never under the impression that MS was an innovator. They buy it and/or copy it and then sell it. They are good at selling.
Of course companies that are not good at selling do not last. Doesn't matter how much they innovate.
Grasshopper.iics wrote: MS has officially stopped supporting XNA and God knows what else.
MS has stopped supporting a vast array of technologies over the years. Perhaps this is just the first time you noticed.
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I am totally agree with you. What the question in my mind is, What are other options for developers?
I have started my career six years back in programming with asp.net 1.1 and still working in asp.net 4.5
Code is important, but it's a small part the of overall process.
Jagz W
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That's one reason why I stay with VS2008 (the best version IMHO).
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So True!
Especially does really well for business software.
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Just curious, does anybody here keep their source code within 80 columns across?
Does anyone see a need for such a format on modern machines?
EDIT:
The reason I ask is twofold:
I just purchased Visual Assist[^], and the product offers to place a vertical indicator line in the source window to show me where the 80th column is.
And, when I was looking through the header files that MySQL installs along with the server, I noted that they adhere to the 80 column limit.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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No and No.
CPallini wrote: You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him.
:Smile:
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132 characters per line is the new standard
"The ones who care enough to do it right care too much to compromise."
Matthew Faithfull
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I wasn't aware of that. Thanks. 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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80 CPL is SO punchcard, I upgraded to a VT100 years ago. 
"The ones who care enough to do it right care too much to compromise."
Matthew Faithfull
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: VT100
:shakes head:
Never thought I'd hear of that again.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: I upgraded to a VT100 years ago.
Now I feel so young as I had to look that up!
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
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Says who?
I'll go and teach them about the advances made in computers, over the last 20 years.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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No: don't even think about it any more.
Not really, no. Larger screen sizes preclude the need to worry about it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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I try to keep my code to about 100 chars per line because it allows me to view 2 files in portrait mode at the same time. I'd be surprised if VA doesn't allow you to customize the column width.
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: I'd be surprised if VA doesn't allow you to customize the column width.
Oh it does let you customize it. I just thought it was significant that they defaulted to the 80th column.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Ah. You can blame Hollerith for that.
/ravi
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I've never really counted the max width of a
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 4
12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
section, and as you see 80 characters doesn't make sense here either.
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I always add a marker there. Not to stop typing there and continuing on a new line, but just get an idea. If my line goes too far beyond the marker, it is time to move to the next line just as well can place it on column 120.
I also put one on column 61. For ten years I always mark my "}" with end if, else, for, ... some find it stupid, but it's just a habit. the //end .... always comes on column 61 (tabs stop there).
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Yes. I have to use laptop with no additional monitor so makes sense. Other than that, I have seen people docking every possible VS options to top, left, bottom and right of the screen which leaves very little of editor to see. I makes life a little easier in those cases too.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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