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I believe I'll pass on that also!
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First, the demand for meat will not double in the next 40 years; that's a rediculous idea.
Second, an insect does not contain "meat". Take away the skeleton and it oozes all over the place. Even Soylent Green has more potential than maggot-meat.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Take away the skeleton and it oozes all over the place
Ah.
You've never seen "mechanically recovered" or "chopped and shaped" meat being processed then....?
Big time tip: don't.
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While it might be true that the "product" may contain the necessary protein, I am pretty sure that it would be hanging offense where I live to suggest that fly larva would be a suitable substitute for BBQ <T>.
And you would have to pry my steak knife out of my cold dead hands.... (I don't have a gun)*
*Shocking huh? An American that does not own a gun.
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I like limits[^]. But ... there are kitchen gadgets[^]
Cheers,
R2D2
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If money is your hope for independence, you cannot reach it.
Being loved gives you strength,
while loving gives you courage.
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Here, after hours of idiotic code changes, I finally checked the endpoint I was hitting. I was using the WSDL url.
I think I should look for another job. I am making seriously stupid mistakes these days. Sir, would you like fries with that?
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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d@nish wrote: I think I should look for another job
Nah - you just need a holiday...
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That's there. I am going for Bangalore to Yercaud[^] this Friday on a motorcycle trip. It should be good. From whatever I have read on web, the route is filled with greenery. Really looking forward to this drive.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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Linky no worky.
Did you mean Yercaud[^]
If so, looks like fun - especially the last bit before you get to the lake! Google streetview look very scenic (and a load of fun on a bike!) I'm envious!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Linky no worky.
See what I am dealing with here.
Really looking forward to trip.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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d@nish wrote: I am making seriously stupid mistakes these days. Whenever you're hitting that damn "X" in the right top corner of the Window to close it, and realize that it's a screenshot - it's time for a vacation
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Going by that rule, I should have been on vacation for at least the last five years.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I know what the problem was -- you used the keyword "me " instead of the keyword "I ".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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brisingr_aerowing@Gryphon-PC $ rake in_the_dough
Raking in the dough
brisingr_aerowing@Gryphon-PC $ make lots_of_money
Making lots_of_money
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What a ridiculous survey.
How are we supposed to take it seriously when it has an "I don't like bacon" option?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Once upon a time, this was considered important, at least by the DoD customers I supported. Languages and technologies evolved to support that concept for many years, until C++ was invented, which sorta blew the whole concept. But I digress...
I've spent the past two weeks slowly rehabilitating a Sears & Roebuck Craftsman Chipper/Shredder which hasn't run in 10 - 12 years. I bought parts to rebuild the carburetor and replace the armature, as well as replacing various rubber parts that have cracked over the years. I finally have everything reassembled correctly, though I don't have any gasoline handy to try starting it yet, and it will, at least, need a carburetor adjustment, but the job is otherwise finished. Next week sometime I'll know whether my efforts have been in vain; no time this weekend.
But the point of the post is to announce the discovery of an important fact - it's not just software folks who have abandoned any pretense of maintainability. I can state authoritatively that no one at Briggs & Stratton, Inc - the manufacturer of the 5 hp motor for this tool - has ever spent 5 minutes thinking, "How can I make this bolt easy for the poor sap who has to maintain this product to access without a special, and therefore expensive, tool?" No effort was spared to ensure that only dealer mechanics would ever attempt to service this beast. Oops, my bad; I don't use dealers for anything.
It's nice to know that software weenies aren't the only ones to shun any consideration for users who want to fix their own stuff. It doesn't help, or alleviate any of the problems caused by this lack of consideration, but it is nice to know...
Will Rogers never met me.
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That's an interesting comparison, Roger. Long ago, I was under the impression that DoD had required use of Ada for exactly reasons of maintenance (could be a "false memory" ?); I have no idea what the vast empire of the US DoD does, or does not, require, these days, or what variation it permits in use of OS's, FrameWorks, etc.
It seems to me that we (programmers, the humble spear-carriers, and oar-slaves, the carpenters, framers, riveters, welders, janitors, plumbers, who build ... or, more often, patch-up with the equivalent of metaphoric "baling wire" and "superglue" ... the boats, that kind-of float) are "at the mercy of" the OS's and FrameWorks we build on "top-of" (Active X, COM, .NET), and the languages "on top" of those frameworks we use, being "changed underneath us" by "powers" far outside our control (Microsoft, Apple, etc.).
If I wanted to try and analogize that to the "mechanical example" you give: would it be useful to ask questions like: "is Sears (or Briggs-Stratton) the same company it was ten years ago?" Or: "did anyone at Sears or Briggs-Stratton ever imagine the idea of giving anything to the customer beyond the guarantee/warranty period ?"
I recently had a Hatari standing room-fan die (made in Thailand under license from Hatari, Japan; not sure to what degree the Thailand factory does export, is administered by Japanese): it ran for six-years almost 24/7. I bought a Panasonic (again, made in Thailand, but quite possibly by a Japanese managed factory, and also made for export) with a two-year warranty; it failed in three-months (just may have been a rotten-apple).
In the software arena, I find it sickening that Adobe (a former employer of mine) will not allow users of its subscription model software licensing (and they are giving customers little choice but to subscribe, since, soon, they won't be selling their software "packaged"), to save their work in a way it can be opened, and edited, by previous versions of their software the customer has already licensed. While, on the business level, given the fact of widespread piracy of Adobe's market-monopolizing products (for good reasons: like features, power, performance), I can see the logic of enforcing a subscription model for any software company, I feel like to deliberately make files unopenable for editing when your subscription is "over," is kind of the equivalent of saying "let them eat pixels"
Anyway, I digress; aren't you really asking a kind of broad philosophical question here: asking what does "made to last" mean ?
Given the state of this body I'm in, as it (too rapidly) approaches its 910th. moon-orbit of the planet it's on, I really wonder about this.
yours, Bill
Google CEO, Erich Schmidt: "I keep asking for a product called Serendipity. This product would have access to everything ever written or recorded, know everything the user ever worked on and saved to his or her personal hard drive, and know a whole lot about the user's tastes, friends and predilections." 2004, USA Today interview
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BillWoodruff wrote: 910th. moon-orbit
Shucks, that's only 0x46 years! You're still good for a couple of laps, I should think.
Will Rogers never met me.
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My lawn mower has a Briggs & Stratton engine, she is an absolute "biatch" to start......prime, prime, prime, pull, pull, break wrist, pull, prime, prime, prime, prime, pull, pull, "coughs and splutters then stalls", pull, wiggle throttle level to try and force further, "remove ignition lead", "wipe plug head", "replace ignition lead", pull, kick, kick harder, walk away for 10 minutes after launching mower down the drive. Return, pull, pull, prime, pull, "and we are off!" mow lawn.......
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We have a Honda 4 stroke which is faultless. When we moved last year I drained the fuel and put it in storage. 6 months later a splah of petrol and it started first go.
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Funny you all mention your experiences. In 2009, I bought a Makita stone cutter for about £380 and a further £90 on the best cutting blade I could buy. We had new stone laid on the patio and the bloke doing it was making a good job of cutting the stone using a large angle grinder but the dust it created made me realise there had to be another way. I turned over the coin a few times and released there were other projects I could use it on. For two days or so, we used it a lot and being petrol-driven we used the water pipe to lubricate the cutting disc. No more dust, cuts so crisp you could sharpen a knife on them.
When I winterised the cutter I went to a garden power tool shop and took their advice to buy some synthetic two-stroke fuel and leave it in the cutter. A few months ago, I took the cutter down from the loft, primed the carburettor, ignition on, one pull of the cord and it fired up as sweet as the day I bought it.
I think half the job of getting things to work and keep them working is keeping them clean and putting them away well cared for. That's one of the reasons I never lend my tools to anyone.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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My neighbour has a Suffok Punch mower. He looks after it and keeps it immaculately clean. He's a keen gardener and his lawn looks good enough to play snooker on.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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It's true - they don't.
Look at any consumer electronics. They aren't just not user-fixable; most of them aren't even dealer-fixable any more. I know how to open my Nexus 7 (because I looked it up on the internet, so when the time comes I can in theory replace the battery) but I haven't tried, because frankly I'm scared of the insides!
I got quite a few messages this week saying "Why fix your mouse? Get a new one!" and I'm afraid that this is the way the world has gone. I still fix what I can - and I bought an OBDII reader / writer when I bought the last car simply because if anything goes wrong, you have to have one to even begin to find out what caused it! But that's not a "normal" tool, and I wouldn't expect "normal" people to have one. And legislation etc. is so tight that all those sensors and computer maps are necessary to keep the car running and not emit too much cr@p, so what can you do?
If they don't expect anyone who isn't being paid by the hour to take it apart, "why make it easy" is the obvious approach.
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