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It's Bacon, Lettuce, and Tomato.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I knew someone would have made the roll pun. I just knew it.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Argh! It's way over there under the sink!
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From tomorrow on I'll be system architect (together with a colleague), trying to bring order into the chaos of non existant processes and a lot of different solutions for similar problems in our division, and on the same time trying to reduce complexity, make everything a bit more robust and less "manual" while bringing us into the future.
Whish me luck
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Best of luck! 
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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Don't try and do everything all at once. One bite at a time.
Pick some low-hanging fruit to start to
- get some quick successes and impress the higher ups
- test and fine tune YOUR processes
Involve the people that will be using your solutions.
If you can steer them to the 'correct' solution and make them think it was their idea, you will get buy-in a lot faster.
"Mistakes are prevented by Experience. Experience is gained by making mistakes."
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Chris is reading, you know?
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Hi All,
I am having fun (for me) working on developing a temperature monitor for some bits of kit we have that don't have one, Crack the knuckles, Design the PCB & write the code for the PIC in C on Notepad++... No Intellisense, no way of quickly checking syntax programming like it was meant to be! 
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Notepad++ is a luxury editor. You should use vi instead. 
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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CPallini wrote: You should use vi ed instead.
FTFY
Mircea
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 I still use ne (Norton editor).
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Congrats, you are Yorkshireman #1 
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: CPallini wrote:You should use vi ed instead. FTFY
No, use Punched Cards (without an interpreter) or paper tape. I have an 8-pin paper tape holder complete with a pin for punching the holes individually that you can borrow. I got it after I used to make my own by cutting strips of paper and using different size knitting needles for the data holes and the sprocket holes.
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Well done! You are Yorkshireman #2. Still waiting for the next two
Mircea
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He's working in a Microsoft environment - he needs to use Edlin.
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glennPattonWork3 wrote: No Intellisense, no way of quickly checking syntax programming like it was meant to be!
I simply can't imagine how I used to do programming without Intellisense. Then again, my office used to have several thick reference books that were always open and printouts of tech sheets on the hardware and microprocessors I was often working with. How things have changed.
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I think I was one the last old school programmers, C (North C) on an Amiga 500 (2 Disk drives & 512K upgrade!). Once you got to be able to translate the 'almost' UNIX error messages  , I wasn't too bad...
Visual Studio and the like made us lazy!
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glennPattonWork3 wrote: one the last old school programmers
Me too. Keepin' it real.
No Visual Studio on OpenVMS.
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Nice. That's how I do it, except I wrote my own little IDE so at least I can compile by clicking a button.
Visual Studio slows me down.
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Power shell IDE's are for weaklings!
Off Topic I have written a test routine for some stepper motors that cause them to play the imperial march! 
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glennPattonWork3 wrote: Power shell
PTUI.
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After spending loads of time writing an installer in C#, my CEO decided to revert to Inno Setup (Pascal scripting) again ...
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