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Excellent! Top of the class laddie! 
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"The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion"
Arthur C Clarke
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Woo-hoo!
Cheers Dave.
"I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant."
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Gyaaaahhhhh!!! Just spent the last twenty minutes trying to think of synonyms for making a musical note, taking a note in a lecture, making currency.... Confound you Dalek Dave and your nefarious non sequiturs!!
But seriously, keep 'em coming. I'll get one yet...
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"The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion"
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That's where the thieving.. I'll shut up 
I are troll
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I was asked this the other night and couldn't say for sure.
I thought they might because humpbacks must swallow a load of air when they surface to scoop up all the fish they corral into a ball, but they won't blow it back out of the blowhole.
Anyone with that particular knowledge?
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
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Herrings fart almost continuously, does that help?
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So maybe it's the herring that are causing "Global Warming" rather than cows and sheep blowing off.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
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st kill and eat all the herring!
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I don't eat herring - they are only good for Monty Python sketches
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
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I expect it helps the herrings.
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 Dalek, I am more and more impressed by this knowledge of yours. Erudition. Unbelievable.
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Baconbutty wrote: Anyone with that particular knowledge?
Burping I'm not sure, but farting and continous noise making...my ex-wife use to....ooops, you said whale didn't you?
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I doubt you could prove they don't.
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...but I didn't realise that formatting three 1.5TB NTFS disks would take quite that long. 
(On the plus side, the three 500GB disks which came out are now free for dev machine use.  )
In the same order we received a pair of 320GB Buffalo Ministation drives for "mobile overspill and general backup stuff" use for something like £47 each. I still think that it's pretty damn amazing that you can get 320GB drives in a 2.5" form factor (I've actually also seen 500s, but the 320s were at the sweet spot) - never mind at that price. Incredible, really. 
Next up we're on the hunt for a pair of affordable quad core SFF machines to use as mobile grid computing demonstrators (we've a couple of conferences coming up in the spring they'd be ideal for). Shuttle is still naffly expensive for a decent spec, so if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears.
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OK, I have to ask, and its quite probable that I missed this in a post in the past, but what do you do for a living that lets you play with all these different toys? I've known you to discuss with particular insight the details of the latest C++ specifications, and actively participated in discussion of grid computing, mobile development and applications amongst others such as hardware issues. I know devs are jacks of all trades as well as specialists in something(s) (I know I'm like that).
Also, please note that I am duly quite impressed.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: OK, I have to ask, and its quite probable that I missed this in a post in the past, but what do you do for a living that lets you play with all these different toys?
It's quite simple really...I'm one of those mad "47 hats" developers who also act as Founder, Company Admin, Product Manager, Developer and whatever else needs doing.
FWIW this is my organisation: http://www.riverblade.co.uk/[^]
It's been an interesting (and scary) ride so far, but as we've been running 4 years now I'm reasonably hopeful we'll be around for quite a while. Visual Lint[^] (my pet project - it's something I've wanted to do for a long time) seems to be getting quite well known now, although so far we've done minimal advertising.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: I've known you to discuss with particular insight the details of the latest C++ specifications, and actively participated in discussion of grid computing, mobile development and applications amongst others such as hardware issues. I know devs are jacks of all trades as well as specialists in something(s) (I know I'm like that).
All of those are mostly because I hang around with interesting people. Being involved (albeit mainly as a delegate) in the ACCU Conference[^] is a great way to open your eyes to interesting stuff (we did a one day workshop on Erlang last year, and ACCU is where I finally got the message about TDD and development processes that work).
The grid computing bit came about purely because we've spent the last three months working with Xoreax to integrate Visual Lint with IncrediBuild[^] so we could use it to accelerate PC-Lint analysis runs (which works brilliantly - it's really impressive to watch, too).
As for hardware - if you're paying for it yourself, it pays to research it a bit before pressing the "Buy Now" button.... 
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Fascinating, positively fascinating!
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: It's been an interesting (and scary) ride so far, but as we've been running 4 years now I'm reasonably hopeful we'll be around for quite a while. Visual Lint[^] (my pet project - it's something I've wanted to do for a long time) seems to be getting quite well known now, although so far we've done minimal advertising.
That sounds great. My own, Netvareas (don't look up the website, I was in the middle of moving it to another host when I got bogged down with exams ) will be closing its doors in Amman, Jordan and will be placed on the backburner until such a time when I deem its worth resurrecting because of the impending move to back to NA. Jordan/Arab world is a pathetically small market and what worthwhile projects exist are mostly controlled by the major players. The freelance market is nonexistent really.
My pet project is an ultra-fast, SMSC (SMS Center) that I hope one day I'll be able to finish and cell sell.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: All of those are mostly because I hang around with interesting people. Being involved (albeit mainly as a delegate) in the ACCU Conference[^] is a great way to open your eyes to interesting stuff (we did a one day workshop on Erlang last year, and ACCU is where I finally got the message about TDD and development processes that work).
Erlang. Yummy That's really cool, I've only been a speaker at the local INETA group twice and it sucked, simply because the developers in Jordan aren't really interested which I find completely bonkers.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: As for hardware - if you're paying for it yourself, it pays to research it a bit before pressing the "Buy Now" button....
True. My hardware interests arise from my CEE background but really I'm more of a consumer than a designer/builder (not counting my home systems)
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: My pet project is an ultra-fast, SMSC (SMS Center) that I hope one day I'll be able to finish and cell sell.
Sounds good. For what it's worth I can recommend a couple of great places to hang out and learn about relevant "stuff" in the meantime:
http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/?biz[^]
http://businessofsoftware.ning.com/[^]
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Erlang. Yummy Smile That's really cool, I've only been a speaker at the local INETA group twice and it sucked, simply because the developers in Jordan aren't really interested which I find completely bonkers.
I found Erlang fascinating - probably because I've a little bit of Prolog in my past!
To be honest far too many developers don't care to learn anything new - it's certainly not just a problem in Jordan - The Two Types of Programmers[^] is just one commentary on the subject.
When I visit companies I always run up against disinterested "80%" developers. You won't find them (for example) here in the Lounge. They're the ones who only register here to download code, and never even think of introducing themselves or writing an article. That's not to say that they are stupid or uneducated (often far from it) - merely disinterested in getting involved and/or (potentially) learning anything they don't have to.
It's a real shame, but changing it is I suspect beyond us mere mortals.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: True. My hardware interests arise from my CEE background but really I'm more of a consumer than a designer/builder (not counting my home systems)
No worries. I've got an Electronic Engineering background myself.
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Didn't know about the second one, but actively read Joel's.
Erlang is awesome if you can actually get the hang of it. It has an insane concurrency level that just has me in complete awe of its designer. I'd like to see some of those ideas implemented in other languages especially now that it is becoming an issue with the plethora of multi-cores that are out or are coming out.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: To be honest far too many developers don't care to learn anything new - it's certainly not just a problem in Jordan - The Two Types of Programmers[^] is just one commentary on the subject.
Yeah, I know, but it seems like its more so here. What's worse, you get some of these kids that graduate from the local schools and they think they're coding gods when in fact, they are mediocre at best. Its both funny and sad when they realize that there is so much for them to learn. Most of them end up going the sales route. I left MS middle east because they were trying to groom me for an evangelist position which would have got me out of the hardcore technical loop and into preaching the benefits of the technologies to come. No thanks.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: No worries. I've got an Electronic Engineering background myself.
Coolness!
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Didn't know about the second one, but actively read Joel's.
The second link is a new group (started in October by the Founder of Red Gate) which already has over 600 members and has had two social/networking gatherings already. They're the same sort of crowd as Joel's Business of Software Forum (the first link) so it's worth knowing about the group.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Erlang is awesome if you can actually get the hang of it. It has an insane concurrency level that just has me in complete awe of its designer. I'd like to see some of those ideas implemented in other languages especially now that it is becoming an issue with the plethora of multi-cores that are out or are coming out.
It certainly is. Joe Armstrong (the designer) is an engaging and enthusiastic person to chat to as well...we met him at last year's conference.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Yeah, I know, but it seems like its more so here. What's worse, you get some of these kids that graduate from the local schools and they think they're coding gods when in fact, they are mediocre at best. Its both funny and sad when they realize that there is so much for them to learn. Most of them end up going the sales route. I left MS middle east because they were trying to groom me for an evangelist position which would have got me out of the hardcore technical loop and into preaching the benefits of the technologies to come. No thanks.
That's one reason the job description "Software Architect" makes me cringe. 
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Coolness!
Anytime. Have soldering iron,* will travel.
* and NATO Standard Lump Hammer, but that's another discussion entirely...
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When Anna and Beth visited me once I got up to find both of them working on their laptops while waiting for me to wake up and sort breakfast!
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I'm trying to imagine the look on your face
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Pah! that was sometime ago, we're rather more organised nowadays.
Usually when we have friends over these days. I prefer to make sure different kinds of breakfast are already presented on the table before waking up.
--- Elle A Du Shell --
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That's why you should use Quickformat!
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