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I remember from the few times went inside starblahs they have all these posters banging on about beans from (good farms where they don't beat but actually pay the workers) in Kenya or Brazil etc.
cream/milk sourced local, likewise what goes into the cookies/cakes they bake.
now apart from that all they have is cups, mugs, small plates, doilies and spoons right?
OK paper/plastic cups & stirrers for takeaway... I'm sure those can be sourced locally too.
apparently starbucks supply chain is heavily affected by the shutdowns in China
what do they need from China?
particularly that which would be a "major" supply item??
Now I realise why their coffee tastes artificial (well all-round crap taste, definitely nothing like coffee)
- too much melamine??
- too much ground up PCB boards (from all the imported "e-waste")??
- literally desiccated pelatized crap?? (got to wonder right? they make rice and eggs from plastic)
- ???
Note: not attacking china, not political, rather questioning the efficacy of starbelch's products.
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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lopatir wrote: OK paper/plastic cups & stirrers for takeaway... I'm sure those can be sourced locally too.
Actually you would be rather surprised by how that is not the case. Last time I looked, there was one straw/stirrer manufacturer left in the US, and I have no idea if they are still in business. And I think they were making paper straws and were getting swamped with orders because CA (or maybe just SF) banned plastic straws.
But take all that with a grain of salt, as I recall it was something I read or saw.
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Canada? wooden stirrers, paper cups? they've got plenty of tree farms.
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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I don't think $tarbux$ has supply problems as a result of COVID-19, it's a profit warning because they have ad to close 2000 shops in China: Coca-Cola, Carlsberg and Starbucks on coronavirus shutdowns[^]
I just don't like their coffee, or want to learn a new "secret language" in order to get a cup of java ...
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[nose in the air]
I want my coffee to come from the same hallowed realm as my iphone.[foot in the mouth]
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From the onset it is clear you will find (or conceive) anything you can wrong with StarBucks. It's kind of a "thing" in certain political circles (left and right).
And why not condemn them? They set such a bad example!
- part time employees earn sick leave
- part time employees earn vacation time
- part time employees earn equity in the company (stock)
- so much damn promotion from within, too!
- and that social responsibility crap by paying the growers
Doesn't taste like coffee? Artificial? Because you want to believe that. After all, they're a large successful company and there can be nothing they do that isn't suspect or outright evil. More so if it's an . . . American company!
So find any nuance for a complaint you can and be content in the club! Pat each other on the back! Go to your local cafe pretend you are a true gourmet! Knowingly nod your heads at one another! You are, after all, "IN" with the "IN" crowd.
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Everything else you're right about, except this:W∴ Balboos wrote: Doesn't taste like coffee? Artificial? Because you want to believe that.
Their coffee sucks.
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Well, then, you just go on enjoying your Nescafe instant.
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Given a choice between Nescafé and starbucks coffee, I'd probably go for the former.
If the only other option were McDognuts coffee, though, I'd end up in starbucks.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Given a choice between Nescafé and starbucks coffee, I'd probably go for the former.
Q.E.D.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Q.E.D.
Not at all, because I don't drink Nescafé, either, so "straw man" is more appropriate statement.
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Since I commented on attitude w.r.t. Starbucks, it doesn't matter whether you drink you instant or not - just that you'd consider that a preferred option. Actually, as you label your comment a 'straw man', that in fact emphasized my point.
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I don't have an "attitude" toward starbucks, I just don't like their coffee.
If that makes you put me in a highly inaproppriate box and treat me like an idiot, the problem is not on my side of the equation.
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I am not getting it at all...
A generation ago, you could buy spray cans with "air freshener" to make your living room smell like, say, a pine forest. (Maybe these products still exist in other parts of the world; here I haven't seen them for many years.)
Discussing the quality of coffee served in paper cups (or plastic cups) is like discussing which of these "air fresheners" would give the most satisfying feeling of being out in a pine forest. With the only difference that in a huge metropol, the nearest pine forest may be a hundred miles away. Most likely you wouln't have to walk (in the USA: drive) more than a handful miles to the nearest shop selling you whole coffee beans, that you can pour into your grinder with a grain of cardamom (not too much - it should never give a taste of cardamom, just a slight aroma). You put the ground coffee into the filter, pour boiling water over it, and you get real coffee, the way it is meant to taste!
Sure, when you're on the run, with no time for anything but what's available, then you grab whatever is available and don't give a sh*t. But what is the purpose of discussing / evaluating the various qualities of sh*t??
I guess I know. It has to do with lots of people never caring to make themselves a decent cup of coffee. They never cared to buy whole coffee beans (or cardamom fruits); in their kitchen they haven't got coffee filters for a Moccamaster or even a simple filter holder and a water kettle. Briefly said: They have never experienced the taste of real coffee.
It isn't limited to coffee. You can see people discussing various diaper teas (tea bags), without ever having tasted "real" tea. Or canned soups, never having been served a soup made from fresh vegables and meat/fish and freshly boiled broth. Discussing alternative plastic packed bread, never having tasted bread still warm from the oven.
There is a strange belief that cooking takes a lot of effort and time, so you "have to" use pre-factored products. When we got these "Ready-for-use" pre-packaged bags of oats porrige, "Just add water and bring to a boil", one of my friends commented, "Isn't that exactly what you do with plain oats at one third the price?" - well, you may have to add a pinch of salt, but that is the main difference!
A friend of mine distinguishes between the bottles of home made strawberry juice from berries picked on sunny days or on cloudy days; they have distinctly different character. You won't ever see that kind of distinction in something sold by CCC! At one occasion when I was served waffels with strawberry jam, I commented that I sure enjoy homemade strawberry jam, but nowadays you rarely are offered jam from wild strawberries! and the housewife gave me a broad smile for recognizing that quality.
I am certianly not suggesting that we all should learn to distinguish between two and three Michelin star restaurants. I am talking about mass produced food and super mass produced food. I am just saying that by making your own, from a cup of coffee and upwards, from ingredients of reasonable decent quality, you can get a lot more quality, and not the least: a lot more variation, than from those super-mega-factory pre-made products that make a virtue never to taste any better than the two thousand times you have tasted the same thing from the same manufacturer.
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Markdown: To force a line return, place two empty spaces at the end of a line.
It's enough to deal with * and ** and # and ## and ### and 1. and 1. and 1. and all the other stupid things about markdown, including the inconsistencies from site to site.
Seriously BitBucket and the rest that think markdown is the cat's meow rather than... You can't just use one of the dozens of free, open source WYSIWYG editors out there?
I know, I've ranted about this before. But it's our fault. We love this symbol soup. It's the geek version of the manager's buzzword bingo, and no better.
And I don't love it. When I use an editor, I don't want to be in "ooh, look, shiny symbols that mean things" geek mode. I want to be in "user mode" -- Give me a decent editor!!!
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Marc Clifton wrote: We love this symbol soup
Speak for yourself. I hate it. Edlin, vi, emacs. Stuff the lot of 'em, and give me Brief, or even notepad ...
As you say, there are good free open source WYSiPMWYGUYGCIWCACH* editors out there.
* What You See Is Pretty Much What You Get Unless You Get Cute In Which Case Anything Could Happen.
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Notepad++ 
Monday starts Diarrhea awareness week, runs until Friday!
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Been there . . . use that !
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Holy Moses, batman I haven't thought of Brief editor in decades. It was one of the best ones I can remember (at the time - early 80s). Now I want to find a current implementation.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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Yay! BRIEF! I miss it.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I too did miss it for several years - but Notepad++ isn't too bad as a Windows replacement.
(I never tried any Windows version of Brief)
If I'm not mistaken, the Brief installation floppy is still down in my basement. But is it readable? If it is, will Brief run in a command.exe window? And wasn't that installation floppy a 5.25" one? Then I would have to fire up that old Win98 machine as well (for 3,5" floppies I have a USB drive ... but modern Windows refuse to read floppies without a proper format code in the boot sector, so sometimes I have to fire up Win98 for those).
Maybe I will spend this weekend to see if I can get Brief on the air again!
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I miss BRIEF, too. There's nothing like hammering out code in a hurry in a MsDOS application once you get the quirky keyboard mapping embedded into your brain. I'm probably the last guy on the planet that misses WordStar, too. 
There are some BRIEF re-creations out there, but Notepad++ works well for me with lots more support than BRIEF ever had.
BTW, remember when MS Excel and Word used to be fairly snappy? Now the latest iterations of these products seem so "leisurely" when typing, not enough to slow my work but text appears on the screen slower than on old machines with slower CPUs.
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No, your not! I use the WordStar control sequences daily. I have an AutoHotKey script that makes all my editors/IDEs/word processors use the Wordstar control sequences. I also use an old ZDNET utility called TradeKeys to remap the CAP LOCK key as the control key. Heh, nobody at work likes trying to use the editors on my machine.
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If I remember right, Brief was (or maybe still is) the only editor with a separate command for shifting the two last written characters (Ctrl-B?)
The creator must have had big problems with that. 
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