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The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car?
My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.
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I really want to say no - but the quality of driving I see as the next generation gets behind the wheel makes me think:
"I would trust it to by mandatory for these new drivers" - since they're way too dumb and self-involved to share the road with others - and they drive that way (it is their road, isn't it?).
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I'll just agree, if I say any more I'll get started and there's probably a limit on the length of a post.
I'll just say; without their phones they wouldn't/couldn't survive!
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A lot of us would be very interested in the rant...
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Good point! Driver's Ed doesn't teach driving. I'm not sure what it teaches, but it sure doesn't teach driving--unless you live in a Nordic country like Belgium or Norway--there, they are required to teach such things as control skids, power slides, etc., because of icy roads.
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rjmoses wrote: Good point! Driver's Ed doesn't teach driving.
You're assuming they're taking driver's ed.
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Go to QA.
Read a couple of hundred questions.
Self driving cars? You'll never use a bank, airplane, or mobile phone again ... 
TBH: compared to the quality of driving you get from trained, licenced, apparently legal drivers I suspect that a self driving car that drove itself into a tree one trip out of a thousand would be preferable company on the roads. It won't get drunk. It won't read the paper, text its mates, perform sex acts, disappear to have a rummage in the glove box, or just have such an intense chat with a passenger that eye contact is essential for minutes at a time. It won't let itself out on the road if it has a serious car defect, or if it's been disqualified, isn't insured, or - possibly - even stolen.
It won't drive the wrong way into traffic to get away from the police, it won't deliberate drive though pedestrian areas, it won't drive 10cm from your rear bumper because it's in a hurry - if it does, it's talking to the car in front and savign road space and energy.
Persuade me that all human drivers are better than that, before you try to prevent self driving cars ...
In a generation, manual driving will probably be frowned upon like drunk driving is today, and will almost certainly be illegal.
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My wife and I had a discussion this morning about driver's high on pot in Illinois since it is legal here now.
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It's illegal here, and they now have a roadside test for Coke and Pot. If you fail, it's down the station for a blood test to see if you are over the limit.
Yes: the UK has a "Legal limit" for illegal drugs ... 
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Agree it's a generational thing, and will become widely adopted over time. Happens through a combination of better self-driving vehicles and acceptance by society that's (now) used to it. Remember how people used to value their private information? But, you grow up in a society where that's not valued, you don't know any different.
In terms of whether I'd trust it, depends. I believe in the power of technology to overcome complex problems--eventually. Agree also that it can become better than most drivers today (myself included of course--though I'm an excellent driver [Dustin Hoffman voice]  )
The first many iterations, I'd want an attentive attendant ready to take over to (hopefully) avoid any more of the problems we've seen. I don't have a feel for how many real-world iterations we'd need until we could say, "yeah, this is safe enough and ready for production."
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Eventually I will.
They will suss them out I am sure, and even if accidents do occur it will still be a lot less then the current idiots on the roads cause.
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Might be. As a matter of fact, I trust more the self-driving metro than the human driven one.
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Would you trust a self-signed certificate?
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Given the sort of questions and sample code I see in QA, then no way.
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Well, if you don't send them the codez they ask for, it's really your own fault! 
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Have you seen my code? 
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While I certainly enjoy manual driving, the move to self-driving vehicles simply has more pros than cons. Generations to either side of me are the worst drivers, so I want those safety risks removed. 
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Things I trust to drive a car in descending order of trust
Me
AI
Women
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Me
AI
Women
Anyone over 75 years old
Any male under 25 years old
Pedestrians I trust to behave in a predictable manner:
Me
Anyone who is not using a phone on the street
Senile, blind, drunk, and drugged people pushing zimmer frames
Anyone using a phone on the street
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Pedestrians I trust to behave in a predictable manner:
Me
Anyone who is not using a phone on the street
Senile, blind, drunk, and drugged people pushing zimmer frames
Anyone using a phone on the street
Pedestrians I trust in the darkness of winter:
Me with free-hanging reflectors from both right and left pockets.
Anyone with free-hanging reflectors from both right and left pockets.
Anyone with reflector strips attached to their clothing.
Anyone carrying a lit flashlight/torch.
Anyone wearing a wristband with two tiny flashing LEDs.
Anyone without any sort of reflector or flashlight.
I can't possibly fathom how anyone who has been driving in a car, even as a passenger, in darkness along an unlit road would ever dare to walk it in the darkness without a reflector, in particular if there are no sidewalks. Yet it happens all the time (in spite of public campaigns every fall). To me, that is sort of a suicide attempt...
I wonder if these self-driving cars have been trained to recognize as a person a brigth flashing plastic tag, 10 cm across, easily noticed from 200 meters distance when the high beam of your car hits it.
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Mandatory xkcd which was proven in Iowa last week: xkcd: Voting Software[^]
Now imagine our actual lives depended on it... 
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Why are you asking me?
Ask my chauffeur.
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No, ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) no.
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