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Eddy Vluggen wrote: So, why don't we do that with software? After, say, a 4000 executions, simply stop the software and demand that the customer buys a complete new license.
One of the first systems I worked on used ints for customer IDs. This was VB6 so ints were 16 bit. It lasted more than 4000 executions, but not more than 32767 users.
(edit: true story BTW, the guy who made the decision to use "int" was a SQL DBA who thought a VB6 int was the same as a SQL int)
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A simple application could have proven that they're not the same. So you opted to give the DBA what he wants, knowing the error.
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It was an existing application, he was the MD and I was straight out of uni. Neither of us had the experience to be doing what we were doing 
Thank God for "find and replace all".
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Neither of us had the experience to be doing what we were doing
Sorry for the accusation, currently not in the best of moods.
F-ES Sitecore wrote: Thank God for "find and replace all".
So the app is now using strings instead? 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: So the app is now using strings instead?
Don't be silly, it's VB6.
Variant.
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Hmm, well back in the mid-90s I was handed a problem one of our clients had with our system.
A part I had never heard of, but I was the de facto primary support person for the client.
It turned out to be the ability to extract a list of customers (from Oracle on an AlphaServer) and import it into Excel (on Win 95?). And no one had realized that Excel (95?) limited the number of rows in a worksheet to... fourteen bits !? WTE!
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: It turned out to be the ability to extract a list of customers (from Oracle on an AlphaServer) and import it into Excel (on Win 95?). And no one had realized that Excel (95?) limited the number of rows in a worksheet to... fourteen bits !? WTE!
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the original design optimized ram usage by using the high 2 bits in the row ID to pack a pair of flags into an int16. MaxRows and MaxColumns were picked to limit how badly you could overwhelm system ram and bring the system to an utter and total crawl via swapping; and ~4m cells would be enough to crush a mid 90s system. Dynamic max rows/columns limits based around a cell cap would be too confusing for non-technical users.
Limits went up to 64k x 256 in Excel 97 and and 1M x 16k in Excel 07. Libre Office and Google Sheets have lower limits; the Dump Everything Into a Single Denormalized Sheet report in my current project exceeds both of the non-MS spreadsheets. (I think the customer just uses it as input for a stats tool.)
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I once ran out of auto increment IDs on a SQL int (after a bug with an infinite loop, I think).
I figured it out after a lot of weird bugs and lots of debugging
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From a sheer hardware level 286 was easier to interface to! Poke & Peek, ahh memory's! 
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glennPattonWork wrote: From a sheer hardware level 286 was easier to interface to! Poke & Peek, ahh memory's!
I would think a 286 is more complex than a washing-machine microcontroller.
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Too busy checking Kickstarter.
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Dude, you need to take a chill pill. Do be so bitter! 
I agree though we, as caretakers of the Earth, ought be more conscientious.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Dude, you need to take a chill pill. Do be so bitter!
I feel swindled, as machines that are 30 years older were even better to service and better for the environment.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: I agree though we, as caretakers of the Earth
Made me laugh.
We're not, and the marketing on it is a lie.
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we are all swindled. Everything was better 30, 50 years ago. People actually cared.
Yeah, marketing, shmarketing... Bleeeech!
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: People actually cared.
Not enough chill-pills in that era?
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It's one thing to complain like you're doing, it's another to be the sort of person to produce something for people (like you and me) that consumers can't really complain about and is good all-around.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: It's one thing to complain like you're doing, it's another to be the sort of person to produce something for people (like you and me) that consumers can't really complain about and is good all-around.
I'm not just complaining; I listed expectations, the reasoning behind the expectation, and the current state, and why what I'm expecting is not unrealistic.
..because dat sh*t matters. If you gonna put your name on a product, you make sure it is up to par.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: that consumers can't really complain about and is good all-around.
Aw, I'm very versed in complaining, I grew up in a country where we made a national passtime out of it, and at the baker or the butcher all customers agree that the weather is awfull. Again. And it is not of the quality of awfull that we used to have. In the past, our awfull weather was a lot more awfull.
If I don't complain about the code, you can safely assume it is ready for production. Now, if you give me a product that is held together by glue, can't be serviced, and is artificially limited in its lifetime, I'm not "just complaining". Seriously, explain me why software isn't built like that?
Would you accept a format of your disc, if some driver breaks your Windows? Including the price for a new Windows-license?
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LOL. Yeah, even with climate-change or global-warming the weather isn't as awful? LMAO. I mean, LMAO.
Yes, we should all produce quality stuff that is good for Mother Earth too.
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Verily, livery is an example! (7)
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Nice! 
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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I liked it.
Does that mean you'll be posting it if it isn't answered in time?
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If I can create one for tomorrow, then yes. I reckon I still got an hour or so.
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You reckon wrong!
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