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CodeWraith wrote: Even my cat says that Mickeysoft sucks.
Well now you've lost all credibility. 
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Why?
- You can't chase and catch Mickeysoft.
- It's not edible and would not taste well if it were.
- They do nothing to make you sleep well.
- They know everything better, with the same results every time.
=> Totally uninteresting for cats.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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CodeWraith wrote: Why?
Because you're clearly a hater and have no valid reasons but now even your cat agrees with you.
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That's ok. From a fanatic fundamentalist fanboi point of view everybody who does not agree with you must look that way.
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CodeWraith wrote: everybody who does not agree with you must look that way.
Sorry to say it but that's a typical response from a hater.
I have asked you in the past who does software better than Microsoft and you have never answered. They are not perfect, of course. Are you a developer? If so, your code has bugs too. So? Everyone does.
You have never been able to articulate why you hate Microsoft so much so that is the main reason I believe you are only a hater. When you cannot put something in to words it generally means you do not understand it yourself.
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It's not about the bugs and you know that. It's more about having those bugs shoved down the throat without asking. For 40 years now I have kept my computers running without anybody's help. If you don't mind, I will keep it that way. Why should I spend a single cent on something I don't really like, from a company that wants to treat cusomers as if they were picking cotton on their plantation, and costs me time and money when it falls apart after an update here and there?
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CodeWraith wrote: t's more about having those bugs shoved down the throat without asking.
Such as?
CodeWraith wrote: If you don't mind, I will keep it that way.
Then don't update. Turn off the update service.
CodeWraith wrote: Why should I spend a single cent on something I don't really like,
I agree.
CodeWraith wrote: from a company that wants to treat cusomers as if they were picking cotton on their plantation
Again, example? I've never seen a cotton picker make a great living.
CodeWraith wrote: and costs me time and money when it falls apart after an update here and there?
But that's true for every piece of software.
See, I just can't get on board with what you say. Nothing is specific enough to be valid.
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Ok are VS2015 and VS2017 specific enough for you. I lost all monday trying to reactivate my 'stale' license. First my (company!) mail address was not good enough, then (with my brand new and muuuuch better MSN mail address) this online license thingie fell flat on its face. With a null reference exception.
The only alternative: Install VS2017 to get going again. It worked, until yesterday. It must have done some updates and could not open any Winforms anymore. The designer kept telling me that these classes are not designable. So I spent half of yesterday repairing VS2017, after having installed it only the day before. And guess what? My clock is already ticking because that online license thingie again fell flat on its face. With a null reference exception.
With all the hoops they let me and my boss hop through, the time it cost us and the somewhat meager results leave only one conclusion: They can keep it. Only a masochist can be happy with this.
And what I hope to find elsewhere? Stability, like not being ushered to the next grand idea without any choice. How about not having to deal with that licensing terror? Or how about not having your system wrecked by mandatory updates whenever they feel like it?
Also, I get the most secure system of all. One that can't be hacked so easily, simply because it has no access to any network. It just sits under my desk and does its thing.
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So, one person has had one big problem, that means they are evil and all the other stuff you said?
CodeWraith wrote: like not being ushered to the next grand idea without any choice.
Up until a few weeks ago, we were still using VS 2010. We do have choice.
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011111100010 wrote: So, one person has had one big problem, that means they are evil and all the other stuff you said?
Evil? Who cares? must you always be such a drama queen?
No, it's just a very clumsy company. Like it or not, I'm not satisfied with their products, nor with their behavior. When I last checked, I was not yet accountable to you for doing that.
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CodeWraith wrote: must you always be such a drama queen?
You call them Mickeysoft because of one event to one person and I'm the drama queen? 
CodeWraith wrote: it's just a very clumsy company
Again, what company is better? I find it very revealing you have never answered that.
CodeWraith wrote: Like it or not, I'm not satisfied with their products, nor with their behavior.
I'm OK with it. I don't care one way or the other.
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011111100010 wrote: You call them Mickeysoft because of one event to one person and I'm the drama queen?
When given the choice between being angry about their escapades, crying over their clumsiness or just laughing about them, guess which one I choose?
011111100010 wrote: Again, what company is better? I find it very revealing you have never answered that.
You just don't get it. I don't need any particular company to keep going. You can give me a completely wiped computer. Even that would not hold me up very long. I still know how to write a bootloader and from there on I'm on my own.
Before you now get a heart attack, I did not go that far. I ordered my last notebooks without any OS and simply put a nice Linux distribution on them. Among other things, I have a good C++ compiler and a good database right out of the box. What do I need more?
And one more thing: If you really think that writing great things depends on some company's tools, then you are in deep trouble. Whatever the results may be, they all come from one place only: The space between your developer's ears.
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CodeWraith wrote: When given the choice between being angry about their escapades, crying over their clumsiness or just laughing about them, guess which one I choose?
All 3 apparently.
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For some reason many of you have confused CP with Facebook. Please post something about flat earth or global warming so we can bring the level of intellect back up to where it used to be in the Lounge.
Or else I may not visit here anymore. Go on, try me! I'm not bluffing. I'll leave. Oh yes I will. 
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
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No you won't, the cat pictures will drag you right back.
This proves it![^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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That cat's expression is what many give when someone tells them Earth is actually a disc.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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011111100010 wrote: Or else I may not visit here anymore. Go on, try me! I'm not bluffing. I'll leave. Oh yes I will.
I don't believe you, but it's worth a shot, I guess, so HERE YOU GO![^]
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
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Good grief, but that is one corpulent cat!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I hear it has a CP account under the name 'Munchies Cat'.
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Johnny J. wrote: I don't believe you,
It's true.
Ohhh wait... 
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I will scan a picture of my old cat for him as soon as I get home.
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CodeWraith wrote: I will scan a picture of my old cat for him as soon as I get home.
Do you really think that's necessary?
Paging @EverybodyInTheLounge: Anybody in need of a cat scan? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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OP does, sortof:
Quote: Or else I may not visit here anymore.
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Almost. 
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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