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Joan M wrote: I own a NAS that has a total capacity of 6TB.
If you don't mind my asking, what do you have for a NAS device? How are backups performed / maintained on it?
I ask because I just bought a cheap NAS to house my random junk, and its backup mechanism is very limited.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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I like Hitachi Touros. They (well mine, bought some time ago) came with little caring cases.
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A double bay Synology.
The backups are being done by they hyperbackup solution to an USB external HDD.
They have a versioning system that is great to access different states of the files you are interested in recovering.
The biggest problem is that it seems they are not capable to handle multiple drives to make backups.
This means you are forced to create n backup tasks (n => one per external disk) and program them to use a specific external disk... this is giving you a failure each day (for the missing disk).
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Well sounds like the Synology has a lot more in the way of features than the Buffalo.
While Buffalo has a backup mechanism its very limited.
Thanks for the info, I will have to look into one of those.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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I've been using a D-Link DNS320 (2 bays, max of 3TB discs) (Ethernet) for a few years. It has not had any problems, even though I had been using second hand 1TB discs, but have bought 3TB as I was running out of room. Also, my Acronis backup s/w was up for renewal; so I have followed advice seen over the month to use AOMEI. Thus far, AOMEI looks good - it is different from Acronis. I quite like (but not got used to) the fact that you can open backups as local drives (somewhat more long-winded that the Acronis method of double-clicking the required backup file). I've not been using it long enough to get a feel for how it deals with saving old backups. I am using the free version; thus far, the only Acronis feature that I have used that AOMEI doesn't have is email notifications and one-step cloning (you can clone in two steps and both feature are available if you get the paid version).
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A very interesting source of data here: Backblaze [^]
This is not their first report, similar data is available going back a few years, IIRC.
TL;DR You can't go just by manufacturer alone.
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I have noticed that some responders have provided negative views of the Seagate Drives.
I have primarily used Maxtor (I believe Maxtor has been absorbed by Seagate.), Seagate, and Western Digital drives with the majority of my machinery.
I have never had a problem with any of them.
However, to be fair to those who do not like certain drives, one should consider the following...
The drive manufacturing industry goes in cycles like any other industry. However, with drive production a certain vendor can produce superior drives for many years and then suddenly put out a "dog" as a result of many factors such as attempts by R&D to create a new technique for data storage, a lowering of demand for a particular drive type, popularity shifts, etc.
If any one such vendor were to continuously put out bad drives over the long term, they would have been out of business by now. So my advice, is to select a drive type that fits your requirements and then select one such drive from the major vendors still manufacturing such hardware.
If you buy a drive from such outlets as MicroCenter Online, for practically all vendors, it will come with a 30day return guarantee. If you have concerns that may go past the 30days, you can purchase replacement insurance for an affordable fee.
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I used to love Maxtor drives. Never had a problem with one (we are talking way back in the day). I think toward the end, the reliability might have went down, and I don't personally think their reputation followed them to Seagate when they were absorbed. I don't care for Seagate personally. I normally go with WD drives, but don't have the brand loyalty as I did with back in the 90's with Maxtor.
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One thing you could consider is using data compression on the data on your drive to possibly extend it's usefulness a bit further before looking for another drive.
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Actually I am totally uninterested (not disinterested as is now commonly used). However there was a time when grammar like in the above message title would alert one to a scam. Now I'm not so sure. It could be from Apple. Who knows, who cares.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I would say let time do its job...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Quick! Open it! It might be important! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Why hasn't it been deleted yet?
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I would only worry if it was from a Nigerian Prince...
<sig notetoself="think of a better signature">
<first>Jim</first> <last>Meadors</last>
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AIUI, a chess engine uses some sort of minmax algorithm, but a minmax algorithm would search for a path that guarantees the least worst option - and since a chess engine assigns integral points for pieces, it seems that the score should be some integral value. What's going on here? (I presume that there must be a few folks here that are in both the set of chess players and the set of folks who do artificial intelligence.)
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Most of the time it is just a little guy in the box that does the moves 
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Usually a Mobility score is also part of the equation, with a non-integral weight. If you're interpolating between game phases (using different scoring for the opening, midgame and endgame and interpolating to avoid sharp discontinuities at phase transitions) of course many scores will not be integral.
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I don't understand the question. Nor the appeal of the game for that matter.
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(I'm going to use the Stockfish engine as example. I don't know how other engines do this, but it could be the same.)
Short answer: Stockfish does output an integral score but your chess interface divides it by 100.
Long answer:
Internally, Stockfish does have an integral value as score. This value is rather big (looking at just the piece values[^], the value of a pawn in the midgame is 171 and the value of the queen is 2526) and it's also not just the piece values, there is also a bunch of bonuses and penalties[^] to adjust this value.
When Stockfish tells you how it evaluates a position, it won't give you its internal value, but it will give you the score in "centipawns"[^]. (1 pawn = 100 centipawns) So if Stockfish's raw output says "200", it means that you have an advantage of 2 pawns.
But even that number is still provided by Stockfish as an integer. Your chess interface, however, may decide to show you the evaluation in pawns rather than centipawns, thus dividing Stockfish's centipawn evaluation by 100.
The quick brown ProgramFOX jumps right over the Lazy<Dog>.
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<EDIT>
Moved to Hardware forum ==> Win 10 Crash again (captured DMP file) - hw - Hardware & Devices Discussion Boards[^]
</EDIT>
I originally posted how my Win10 i7, 8GB laptop had crashed and restarted itself here at:
Seriously Win10 What's With the Restart? - The Lounge[^]
@randor had mentioned that I could take a look at the dump file to get more info.
However, at the time the DMP file got delete so I was unable to go further.
My machine rebooted and this time I still have the 997MB DMP file (which is crazy) and I opened it up with WinDbg.
Here's what I see...
I know it's a lot of info but just thought it might be interesting.
You can see that it looks like it is the PCI.sys driver that failed.
Reason I'm Mentioning This
I mention this out of interest and to see if anyone else has had a situation with their Win10 PC rebooting itself like this while not in use.
Just a discussion, not looking for an answer. I know better than to believe we would ever be able to run a cryptic thing like this down. This is the Way of Windows, a magical land where the magic often fails. 
DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE (9f)
A driver has failed to complete a power IRP within a specific time.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000004, The power transition timed out waiting to synchronize with the Pnp subsystem.
Arg2: 000000000000012c, Timeout in seconds.
Arg3: ffffe680b6184040, The thread currently holding on to the Pnp lock.
Arg4: ffff87012fc7d910, nt!TRIAGE_9F_PNP on Win7 and higher
Debugging Details:
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Implicit thread is now ffffe680`b6184040
KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1
TIMELINE_ANALYSIS: 1
DUMP_CLASS: 1
DUMP_QUALIFIER: 401
BUILD_VERSION_STRING: 16299.15.amd64fre.rs3_release.170928-1534
SYSTEM_MANUFACTURER: TOSHIBA
SYSTEM_PRODUCT_NAME: Satellite S55t-B
SYSTEM_SKU: INVALID
SYSTEM_VERSION: PSPRDU-008004
BIOS_VENDOR: INSYDE Corp.
BIOS_VERSION: 1.40
BIOS_DATE: 05/13/2014
BASEBOARD_MANUFACTURER: Type2 - Board Vendor Name1
BASEBOARD_PRODUCT: Type2 - Board Product Name1
BASEBOARD_VERSION: Type2 - Board Version
DUMP_TYPE: 1
BUGCHECK_P1: 4
BUGCHECK_P2: 12c
BUGCHECK_P3: ffffe680b6184040
BUGCHECK_P4: ffff87012fc7d910
DRVPOWERSTATE_SUBCODE: 4
IMAGE_NAME: pci.sys
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 43aeedb9
MODULE_NAME: pci
FAULTING_MODULE: fffff80b9ac70000 pci
CPU_COUNT: 8
CPU_MHZ: 9be
CPU_VENDOR: GenuineIntel
CPU_FAMILY: 6
CPU_MODEL: 3c
CPU_STEPPING: 3
CPU_MICROCODE: 6,3c,3,0 (F,M,S,R) SIG: 1E'00000000 (cache) 1E'00000000 (init)
BLACKBOXBSD: 1 (!blackboxbsd)
BLACKBOXPNP: 1 (!blackboxpnp)
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR: 0x9F
PROCESS_NAME: System
CURRENT_IRQL: 2
ANALYSIS_SESSION_HOST: MOBISILVER8
ANALYSIS_SESSION_TIME: 03-17-2018 12:04:23.0467
ANALYSIS_VERSION: 10.0.17074.1002 amd64fre
STACK_TEXT:
ffff8701`2fc7d8d8 fffff800`3608fbc4 : 00000000`0000009f 00000000`00000004 00000000`0000012c ffffe680`b6184040 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
ffff8701`2fc7d8e0 fffff800`362c6916 : ffff8701`2fc7db10 ffffd680`92cce180 ffffd680`92cce180 000000e6`7551f100 : nt!PnpBugcheckPowerTimeout+0x60
ffff8701`2fc7d940 fffff800`35f58923 : ffffd680`92cce180 00000000`00000000 ffff8701`2fc7db18 00000000`00000000 : nt!PopBuildDeviceNotifyListWatchdog+0x16
ffff8701`2fc7d970 fffff800`35f599bd : 00000000`00000018 00000000`00000000 00000000`00252ac4 ffffd680`92cce180 : nt!KiProcessExpiredTimerList+0x153
ffff8701`2fc7da60 fffff800`3600cdfa : 00000000`00000001 ffffd680`92cce180 00000000`00000000 ffffd680`92cdc200 : nt!KiRetireDpcList+0x43d
ffff8701`2fc7dc60 00000000`00000000 : ffff8701`2fc7e000 ffff8701`2fc78000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiIdleLoop+0x5a
FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner
IMAGE_VERSION: 10.0.16299.251
STACK_COMMAND: .thread ; .cxr ; kb
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x9F_4_Netwbw02_IMAGE_pci.sys
BUCKET_ID: 0x9F_4_Netwbw02_IMAGE_pci.sys
PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS: 0x9F_4_Netwbw02_IMAGE_pci.sys
TARGET_TIME: 2018-03-15T05:11:51.000Z
OSBUILD: 16299
OSSERVICEPACK: 0
SERVICEPACK_NUMBER: 0
OS_REVISION: 0
SUITE_MASK: 784
PRODUCT_TYPE: 1
OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64
OSNAME: Windows 10
OSEDITION: Windows 10 WinNt TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal
OS_LOCALE:
USER_LCID: 0
OSBUILD_TIMESTAMP: 2018-03-01 00:36:55
BUILDDATESTAMP_STR: 170928-1534
BUILDLAB_STR: rs3_release
BUILDOSVER_STR: 10.0.16299.15.amd64fre.rs3_release.170928-1534
ANALYSIS_SESSION_ELAPSED_TIME: 620
ANALYSIS_SOURCE: KM
FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING: km:0x9f_4_netwbw02_image_pci.sys
FAILURE_ID_HASH: {6709efd6-2555-4107-d407-a72ec07f114d}
Followup: MachineOwner
modified 17-Mar-18 13:38pm.
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Did you try rebooting?
I have never had problems with Windows 10 crashing, but I am not running it on a laptop, so I don't have any power policies enabled - I am guessing that your crash is related to Power Management given the first line in your dump.
BTW, I have worked with application crash dumps that were larger than 1GB, so I don't think 997MB for the OS crash dump is surprising.
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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SoMad wrote: am guessing that your crash is related to Power Management given the first line in your dump
Yeah, it does look like that. Just curious if this is a Win10 thing or related to my H/W.
Of course this never happened in the past (only since recent updates) and never happened under Win8.1.
SoMad wrote: I don't think 997MB for the OS crash dump is surprising
I agree, as a developer it is not surprising. As a consumer, it's a bit surprising.
Also, with a dump with that much info I would think their might be an AI-type of process that Microsoft would provide that would give me a better idea of how to resolve.
Such, as:
Microsoft Debug AI: "PCI.sys has crashed due to conflict with Power settings driver. Please update power settings driver"
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Take it to the hardware forum and I will answer you.
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