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Quote: it cannot be proved that he spoke Italian well
Point being?Quote: the contents of his will being within the rules for Jews has to be real.
And was also pretty common among non jews.
Quote: Interesting that considering that there has always been controversy over his being Italian, that you are now asking for proof. Give concrete proof he was Italian
You're the one claiming that we are lied to.
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What else is new...people lie lots, especially those in power. When there is politics, there is lots of lying in my experience.
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Wills will seem Jewish as long as lawyers are Jewish. 
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Ohhhh, it's by HIM is it. Now we know why the idea is being pushed so hard. And it is therefore questionable sine it is being done for political gain.
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Clifford Nelson wrote: , maybe you will learn something that is lied about in your high school history book. You do know that history books are not written by professors of history. In fact if an academic wrote a history book it would be frowned upon by the academic community. The publishing companies make lots of money selling their books, and it is mostly to states that have state level review of acceptable books for their school system.
Presumably that second sentence would have been better stated as...
'You do know that elementary/middle/high school history books are not written by professors of history.'
College history books most definitely are written by professors of history. And are required text books in the classes taught by those same professors. Which is the same for many other college courses of all types.
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Uhhhhhm. No, no, wiki is not the over all knowledge. Not bad at all, but please......
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Certainly not, but note how every theory of origin that I've seen is included, including the catalan jew one.
Personally I believe the one that he is a Swede. 
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A Sw/...(most probably only a keyboard failure) ... iss/ede. Let us agree on a human 
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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thrmph
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Great! Another ardent defender of all things jewish. Now then, are there any other lies you are aware of and care to mention?
History is the joke the living play on the dead.
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That is not true in my case. I think that Israel is a horrible country that is more like Nazi Germany that any other country in the world today. I will also admit that the Jews do something that makes people hate them, and in that respect they are very stupid. Otherwise why thru so much of recent history have they been so hated. It is also very sad that the Jews have turned against the Muslims, who treated them very well in the past, and Judaism did very well under the Muslims. If not for the horrible Zionist Jews that so ardently defend Israel, the murder of so many innocent Arabs, there would not be the hate between them.
In another respect they tend to be very capable people, that are responsible for so much more in this country than their numbers would justify.
You will believe what you want. A saying I like about people like you is that you can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think. I see to many people who want to believe the obvious lies that we are told. In school, unfortunately, they teach of to recite what they want us to believe, but they do not teach us how to use our brains for anything besides recitation. The Politicians want sheep, not free thinkers. Harder to guide people who will analyze the situation and come to their own conclusion.
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You are the first CP member I have had an exchange with that holds such a realistic assessment of Israel. Given my past exchanges, I most certainly did not expect this from you. As such, I will reconsider and take a closer look at the reference in your OP.
The following will help you understand the context of my remark.[^].
If you take a look at my CP signature, perhaps we share a bit more in common than I originally thought.
History is the joke the living play on the dead.
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Clifford Nelson wrote: He apparently could not even speak Italian.
Because Italy didn't exist until 1861 but of course I can't expect a 'murrican to know history.
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Just out of curiosity, what did they speak in, say Modena, in the fifteenth century?
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No picture, but there's a sound byte of him trying to speak italian?
I don't even know if there was Italian back then, or if they just spoke Latin.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Not nearly so admirable position[^] as one might think.
Gossips talk about the wether - gives it a whole new meaning
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Love how it specifies MALE goat or sheep. I wonder what you call a castrated female sheep
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Spayed, I expect, being the closest thing.
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Pom Pey wrote: I wonder what you call a castrated a female sheep
FIFY
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W∴ Balboos wrote: I wonder what how you call a castrated a female sheep
FTFY!
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Even were it not an oversight, I would certainly defer to your expertise in such matters.
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Pom Pey wrote: Love how it specifies MALE goat or sheep. I wonder what you call a castrated female sheep
Mutton?
Hillary??
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
modified 6-Apr-18 11:29am.
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